120-Volt Mig welder.

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   / 120-Volt Mig welder. #151  
Yes it does have grooves and I am heading to HD this afternoon for a spool of .023. Struggling at the moment with 16g (.060). Yes I have played a little with pulsing but I am also trying to keep it water tight.

If you are able, weld down hill. It goes faster, less time to burn through.
 
   / 120-Volt Mig welder. #152  
I am looking for something practical for body work.. stick is near impossible, and tig is fairly difficult (at least for me) unless it's on a bench in front of you. Crawling under a truck to weld the back of rockers and laying and reaching into the corners to do floor pans would suck with tig. I really think a small 120 mig would be the ticket. Then once I have one, I'm sure I would use it on all of the thinner stuff. But I would not require trying to push it's limits on thicker stuff.

I tried body work with my stick welder, that was comical. Now I have a cheap HF flux core wire feed unit that does the job. A good brand of .030 wire seems to work quite well for stitch welding, the HF stuff is crappy. The last couple months I've ran 6 or 8 spools through that machine just for body work, some were 2 pound spools. Was there some blow through? Oh yeah but generally pretty easy to build it back up then get the grinder to clean up the mess. Lining up the metal is so easy with a wire feed unit and auto darkening helmet. Line up the top seem, pull the trigger for a second so it's tacked then work your way down the seem to tack it all in straight. Go back and stitch it all in. I really should have bought one of these machines sooner.

Would I like a dual voltage MIG? Of course but this thing does the job I'm asking it to and the portability is priceless.
 
   / 120-Volt Mig welder. #153  
Yes it does have grooves and I am heading to HD this afternoon for a spool of .023. Struggling at the moment with 16g (.060). Yes I have played a little with pulsing but I am also trying to keep it water tight.

Water tight on 16g, ouch. You're way more talented a welder than me if you can accomplish that.
 
   / 120-Volt Mig welder. #155  
Okay then... I will take that as a challenge! :D It is not critical but a goal.

Please do, I'm always willing to learn how someone accomplishes something. I'm curious as to what you are welding that needs to hold liquid.

So many types of welding, so little money and time to learn it all. :D
 
   / 120-Volt Mig welder. #156  
Water tight on 16g, ouch. You're way more talented a welder than me if you can accomplish that.

No problem at all with TIG:)

And TIG is easy and cheap to get into if you have a DC stick welder with good control of the current setting.
 
   / 120-Volt Mig welder. #157  
No problem at all with TIG:)

And TIG is easy and cheap to get into if you have a DC stick welder with good control of the current setting.

Ok, I've actually been avoiding asking; because I know what some of the answers would be; but what is the cheapest functional tig torch/power block/lead-hose you can't get. I know the default answer is to go to the LWS and just buy what they tell me to buy...
$50 + argon regulator? Is there a cheaper? Is $50 not realistic?
I see regulars starting at $32 on ebay.

Can you use the argon regulator on straight CO2 if I decided to get a mig later.

Would a gas supplier swap a oxygen tank for inert gas tank of simular size?

I have a 130 amp ac/115 DC Chicago electric transformer already. I have two large oxygen tanks; ones ~150-200, others 200+ cf. Both are long out of hydro-test, but both still have oxygen in them.
 
   / 120-Volt Mig welder. #158  
Watertight is no problem, it's a pretty quick pulse, about as quick as you can work that trigger finger. I have never quantified it but guessing from memory it's about 2/3 on, 1/3 off.

Why watertight, does it hold liquid? Or just to exclude water so it doesn't leak rust stains or fill with ice? You can do that with paint if the weld is decent.

This pic is 1" x 1" x .065" (=16ga) pulsed with .030 wire. You can make it a little tighter with .023 wire. I think you'll pick it up pretty fast.

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   / 120-Volt Mig welder. #159  
And TIG is easy and cheap to get into if you have a DC stick welder with good control of the current setting.

Maybe someday but funding isn't there at the moment. Kids are too expensive. :p

I do enjoy watching youtube videos of people welding with various types of welders. Plasma cutters are cool too. So many tools so little money.....
 
   / 120-Volt Mig welder. #160  
Ok, I've actually been avoiding asking; because I know what some of the answers would be; but what is the cheapest functional tig torch/power block/lead-hose you can't get. I know the default answer is to go to the LWS and just buy what they tell me to buy...
$50 + argon regulator? Is there a cheaper? Is $50 not realistic?
I see regulars starting at $32 on ebay.

Can you use the argon regulator on straight CO2 if I decided to get a mig later.

Would a gas supplier swap a oxygen tank for inert gas tank of simular size?

I have a 130 amp ac/115 DC Chicago electric transformer already. I have two large oxygen tanks; ones ~150-200, others 200+ cf. Both are long out of hydro-test, but both still have oxygen in them.

I gave $26 for the regulator, and I think it was $90 for the 17V torch, I did not need a power block as the torch had a 10mm DIN plug on the end that plugged right into the the Everlast welders DIN plug socket. I have seen torches from about $70 and up on e-bay. depending on what comes with them. Mine had some accessories, several cups, collets and a back cap and a tungsten.

I can't answer what the LWS will do with the tank swap out. I think the argon regulator will work with CO2, but I don't think it reads right. I might be wrong on that. But at about $26, I did not consider it a large investment.

HTP Argon CO2 MIG TIG Flow Meter Regulator Welding Weld | eBay

WP 17V 12 Foot 4 Meter 150Amp Air Cooled TIG Torch Complete with Gas Valve Head | eBay

So looks like this torch is $57 and even has the switch if you convert later to a welder with HF start. it comes with collets cups backaps and has a DIN connection.. This looks like a good buy to me. I would be happy to answer any questions to people just thinking about getting into TIG.. I am no expert, by any stretch, but I have been down the road and might be able to help.
 
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