Wheel spacers or weights for slopes?

   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes? #71  
I'm no fan of quick attachment for that reason.
Mowers & bush hogs are too far behind tractor causing excessive tail swing when turning around trees & fences.
 
   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes?
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#72  
I picked the wheel weights up today. The spacers should be here soon I hope. Id really like to try the weights alone, then the addition width spacers alone and then both together to see the benefit each adds on their own, but that's a lot of extra work when I LAN to run both anyway. Still, I may do it because if not I'll always wonder which had the most added benefit. Either way, I'll post some pics and impressions along the way.

At the dealer today they had several tractors like mine with AG's set in from factory and DANG they looked narrow as heck.

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   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes?
  • Thread Starter
#73  
I picked the wheel weights up today. The spacers should be here soon I hope. Id really like to try the weights alone, then the addition width spacers alone and then both together to see the benefit each adds on their own, but that's a lot of extra work when I LAN to run both anyway. Still, I may do it because if not I'll always wonder which had the most added benefit. Either way, I'll post some pics and impressions along the way.

At the dealer today they had several tractors like mine with AG's set in from factory and DANG they looked narrow as heck.

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   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes? #74  
I don't know how you will know how effective any of this is unless you actually tip it over. Seems like it's a guessing game unless you do some tipping tests. Sorry, that's my engineering training.
 
   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes? #75  
I'd really like to try the weights alone, then the addition width spacers alone and then both together to see the benefit each adds on their own, but that's a lot of extra work when I LAN to run both anyway. Still, I may do it because if not I'll always wonder which had the most added benefit.
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Not sure either one will be all that helpful. The cumulative effect is not additive, but the spacers will cause the weights' effect to be multiplied.
 
   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes? #76  
I don't know how you will know how effective any of this is unless you actually tip it over. Seems like it's a guessing game unless you do some tipping tests. Sorry, that's my engineering training.
You can do it mathematically. figure a triangle with it's point at the outside edge of the rear tire and the verticle side running up through the drawbar to the center of gravity of the tractor. If that happened to be three feet wide and three feet high the angle of the triangle would be 45 degrees and the tractors tipping point would be 45 degrees. Move the tire out four inches with the spacers and lower the center of gravity six inches by adding weight and the tractors angle becomes 37 degrees and its tipping angle becomes 53 degrees.
 
   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes? #77  
The secret ingredient is the center of gravity. How do you find that? I am guessing on my machine it is 12-14 inches above axle center line??
 
   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes? #78  
Lets jus let the OP try his weights & spacers first, w/o all this hi tech engineering tactics LOL

I'm jus kiddin :D
 
   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes? #79  
The secret ingredient is the center of gravity. How do you find that? I am guessing on my machine it is 12-14 inches above axle center line??
It varies with the weight you have on the 3PH and or in the loader bucket and how high the loads are. On a bare tractor it usually is under your feet and a few inches down from the top of the transmission housing.
The math just compares things with just the one or two variables. My Technicians training kicking in rather then an Engineers building a scale model.:D
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Here is something on the subject.
http://agsafety.tamu.edu/files/2011/06/SAFE-TRACTOR-OPERATION-ROLLOVER1.pdf
 
   / Wheel spacers or weights for slopes? #80  
Lets jus let the OP try his weights & spacers first, w/o all this hi tech engineering tactics LOL

I'm jus kiddin :D

And deprive us of the mental challenges and eventual arguing? And the popcorn after the name calling?
 

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