Hearing Aid advice

   / Hearing Aid advice #41  
Don - I have the Kirkland made by Resound from Costco. I have the phone clip which I love.... makes it soooo much easier to hear the phone ring and to hear the voices. I usually clip it to the collar of my shirt, put the phone in my pants pocket and if I get a call, I just answer it on the clip and never take the phone out of my pocket. I lost one of my aids at MD Anderson - replaced for free and right now I have one in for free repair - blue tooth went out. All the supplies you need are free for life except batteries, and the girls there are really helpful. I have an electric dryer that I recommend you get. It's a little heater tray that you put the aids in at night. The moisture can cause problems. Be careful you don't walk into the shower with 'em on. It was free. My aid's are like my glasses now - don't go to town without 'em and don't even notice I have 'em on ....unless I forgot them then I darn sure know it and regret it.
 
   / Hearing Aid advice #42  
Thanks, I do miss a lot of calls because I don't hear the phone ring and the vibrate must not be against my leg so I think I will get the phone Compilot and RemoteMic.
I'll make sure I get a dryer too.
My wife is a little sad that I'm getting one - she won't be entertained anymore by the words I say that I thought she said.:confused3:
They had a cancelation, I'm in!
 
   / Hearing Aid advice #43  
I was initially skeptical about Costco and their prices but now I understand the pricing models by many hearing aid dispensers. The costs to go back to a dispenser is free in that you do not pay out of pocket for the visits for adjustments, broken horns, molds, etc. You did pay for them up front in the cost of the hearing aids. There is a huge markup, especially if you are like my daughter who only goes back 1 time per year. Most hearing aid dispensers have less than 5-6 locations. Their volumes can never approach Costco's volumes. I do not remember the exact number stated in one forum (nor can I confirm it) but it is well over 100,000 units per year. No local dispenser can get that kind of volume pricing.
 
   / Hearing Aid advice #44  
she won't be entertained anymore by the words I say that I thought she said.
..sure she will...I don't wear the aids here at home especially working outside. They're too sensitive to the sweat and dirt that I'd put on 'em. You may have to listen to her telling you to "go put your ears in!" though.
 
   / Hearing Aid advice #45  
she won't be entertained anymore by the words I say that I thought she said.
..sure she will...I don't wear the aids here at home . . .

You don't know how happy that makes her.:cool2: :rolleyes:

Well, the Dr. could not come to work today and cancelled on me so I'm back on the waiting list.:confused3:

Gale Hawkins these hearing aids are the "Phonak Bolero Q90 Hearing Aids: $2299.00 per aid - Precise Hearing" with a few things not activated on the program. I guess that lowers the price $1,000 each which is really a help since my insurance, the one I can keep, but wonder why after all the changes, no longer covers hearing aids.
 
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   / Hearing Aid advice #46  
Hearing aids are on of the best things you will ever have. I have two Starkey AI BTE aids with open moulds

. They are programmable by the hearing audiologist. and have a remote control for adjusting volume and for choosing between 4 hearing environments. Conversation, TV, Music, and noisy environment situations. They are about $4000 per set.

The type of earmold that you should choose is dependant upon your ears, your ear canal sensitivity to itcheys and how much moisture will be produced inside your ears. There are open molds, which do not trap the air inside your ears and so do not "echo" sounds when you chew, nor do they cause allergy reactions inside the ear canal which lead to infections.

I do NOT recommend anyone buying off the shelf hearing aids,Although they are cheaper, they will eventuall cause you so much trouble that you will give them up in frustration.

If you need hearing aids get them from a reputable Licensed audiologist with proven competency. Heaqring aids do much more than make it easier to hear. They aviod mental confusion and many other bad effects we get from being hard of hearing, being grumpy, being distant from friends, being depressed, and losing the ability to function in a hearing world normally.

Good hearing aids are a necessity, not a luxury. Mental health, mental acuity, social skills, balance, awareness, self esteem and yes, even safety, depend upon be3ikng able to hear as well as anyone else. They delay the aging of our brains, and hence increase our enjoyment of life. So Good Hearing Aids, properly set up are very wise investment..and last but not least, our relationships with others (wives, children, loved ones) prosper when we consider the effects upon others in our lives, especially our wives or husbands

Of all the gadgets that I have ever owned, hearing aids are, hands down, the best things I ever invested in.

I have a 90% hearing loss, but for years I did not know it. It is now the difference between night and
day. But it took me awhile to find a good audiologist..they are scarce..and they are one of my greatest blessings.

Do yourself a favour..Go and get a (Free) audiogram..and persevere. You will be very glad you did.

This is not my first post, but it may well be my most important one. You will not know why until you suddenly find yourself able to hear well., as you should be able to. Truly, it is like coming in out of the rain on a cold day
 
   / Hearing Aid advice #47  
Jix, excelent post. Thanks for the advice. The Doctor of Audiology at Costco schedules a 90 minute exam before ordering the hearing aids. She has an Au.D. behind her name. They order a set for you special and it takes about 1-2 weeks to get them in and then they are fitted.

Are you referring to Costco as a "Off the Shelf" type of store? I don't, now if I was ordering a pair off the internet - yes that would be off the shelf.

This is not my first rodeo. In 1999 I went to a major reputable hearing aid place. Had all the test, molds made, etc. . .I returned them at the end of the trial period dissatisfied. I am not easily satisfied If I pay thousands of dollars I expect quality. I hope in the last 15 years they have improved.

I'll let you know how the professionalism, and products compare. I've been able to determine that Costco's price (for a similar product) is about 50%.

Insurances are dropping hearing aids and Costco is picking up the ball and running. The reviews are good and the business seems to be thriving.
 
   / Hearing Aid advice #48  
You don't know how happy that makes her.:cool2: :rolleyes:

Well, the Dr. could not come to work today and cancelled on me so I'm back on the waiting list.:confused3:

Gale Hawkins these hearing aids are the "Phonak Bolero Q90 Hearing Aids: $2299.00 per aid - Precise Hearing" with a few things not activated on the program. I guess that lowers the price $1,000 each which is really a help since my insurance, the one I can keep, but wonder why after all the changes, no longer covers hearing aids.

Sorry I do not know the cost. That was just a web site with info about them that I found. One day I walked into one of those small town VA centers for the first health check up in years and six months later I was fitted with the Phonak Bolero Q90 aids. It blew me away when I googled the aids. I did not complain but would have preferred gray over flesh color. :) I was told by a private doctor that made the ear mold locally the VA often get aids for next to nothing but I expect they fit 1000's every day.
 
   / Hearing Aid advice #49  
Jix, excelent post. Thanks for the advice. The Doctor of Audiology at Costco schedules a 90 minute exam before ordering the hearing aids. She has an Au.D. behind her name. They order a set for you special and it takes about 1-2 weeks to get them in and then they are fitted.

Are you referring to Costco as a "Off the Shelf" type of store? I don't, now if I was ordering a pair off the internet - yes that would be off the shelf.

This is not my first rodeo. In 1999 I went to a major reputable hearing aid place. Had all the test, molds made, etc. . .I returned them at the end of the trial period dissatisfied. I am not easily satisfied If I pay thousands of dollars I expect quality. I hope in the last 15 years they have improved.

I'll let you know how the professionalism, and products compare. I've been able to determine that Costco's price (for a similar product) is about 50%.

Insurances are dropping hearing aids and Costco is picking up the ball and running. The reviews are good and the business seems to be thriving.

TXDON:

No, I do not think that Costco sell "off the shelf hearing aids" As to the qualification of Audiologists, There are two general fields of those. An audiologist is a university speciality qualification that concentrates on measuring hearing ability, usually using high tech "booths" and sound generating devices to plot your hearing curve on a graph.

This graph is used by a audiology technician to fit you with a set of hearing aids calibrated and programmed with a computer that adjusts the internal electronics performance to match your graph, or "Audiogram".

In my experience an audiologist can do no better than the instruments in the"booth" are capable of measuring..and there good, bad and better equipped booths..and audiologists. Audiology equipment is sensitive, and expensive. Older equipment may not be good enough to define your audiogram accurately. Modern equipment, no more than 5 years old is probably the minimum requirement, becoz if the audiogram is inaccurate, so will be the resultant programming of the hearing aids.

Back when, hearing aids were simply cone shaped funnels that one stuck into ones ears, These were of some use, but not very effective in modern terms.

Modern hearing aids can do several important things to "shape" the processed sound that you hear through your hearing aids. Most obvious is to make it "louder" or to increase the sound wave pressures impacting upon your eardrums. Of course, sounds pressures must be calibrated to suit, or compensate, for your hearing loss. This sound pressure compensation is different for different kinds of sound or frequency pitch, because a damaged hearing ability has different requirements at different pitches of sound and also requires different capabilities in different sound environments, Noisy rooms, music concerts, Tv listenimg, and conversation one-on-one.

Within the microprocessors of good hearing aids is a system to allow the hearing aid computer that shapes the sound pressure "signal" delivered to your ear drums (the tympanic membrane) to be "programmed" to match your exact need, and to vary that signal to tailor what you hear to suit the kind of sound environment that you in in.

The most difficult ideal to achieve is to allow you to hear clearly without the sound being all mashed up by intruding noise, such as listening to one-on-one conversatiuon in a crowded noisy room.

Second difficulty is to tailor the hearing aid sound output to suit the unique and very complex way in which the human brain interprets sound. This is a specialty of psychology..the real experise of a audiologist doctorate lies in this very, very complex area. In a sense, we do not hear what we hear, we hear what we think . THey get it right about half the time on a good day..but most person's brains will gradually adapt to work pretty well, even if the audiologist did not. This is why a "period of adaptation" is usual, especially for a person who has only recently been fitted with hearing aids for the first time. The impossible dream is for a hearing-impaired person to gain virually perfect hearing..not possible, yet.

So much for the folderol foregoing.

The rubber meets the road when the audiology technician fits your unique hearing aid to your ears and begins to program it from your audiogram, to help you to choose the "earmold" that goes into your ear canal bell.

Earmolds are not straightforward, like a cork. It can be very difficult to get it right, particularly with what is called a "closed mold" Back when, the technician would put a blob of goo into your ear bell, let it set, then remove it to make a plastic casting that exactly fit your ear and sealed it off from external sounds. This sealing was necessary to prevent sounds from the hearing aid "speaker"inside the ear from sneaking around to enter the hearing aid microphone outside the ear, thus creating painful loud "sqealing" (acoustic feedback).

Closed molds, however create many other problems. The most common complaint is making every sound from chewing, from your own speaking seem way too loud to you..and disconcerting. People with closed mold hearing aids would often remove them when chewing, for example. The other nasty issue was internal ear" sweating" and that caused different kinds of skin problems inside the ear. Very annoying itchey, scaling, infected ears...and allergic reactions to the plastic plug of the earmold

Fortunately, electronics were invented that stopped squealing and it became unneccesary to use closed earmolds asnymore Happy Day!!

Most modern hearing aids now employ an open mold technology. simply a soft rubber foil with vent holes in it that slips into the ear canal. Not custom made, not tricky to insert, not expensive, not troublesome. Nearly the perfect answer, but it does require quite sophisticated computer technology to avoid acoustic feedback issues.

Getting all this together for each unique hearing impairment client is not a simple task.
The hearing aid technician has to have quite a lot of knowledge and experience..a mere audiologist is helpless with this...unless they were first audiology technicians.

Walmart hires good people..no doubt, but has a challenge finding really good technicians, becoz most of these rare birds go into private business for themselves..or try to.

Yep, Walmart sells good stuff, at good prices. Getting a good experienced technician...not so much.

Here is a challenge..Buy a Walmart hearing aid, then take it somewhere else to get it right...try that...Good luck
 
   / Hearing Aid advice #50  
Jix, excelent post. Thanks for the advice. The Doctor of Audiology at Costco schedules a 90 minute exam before ordering the hearing aids. She has an Au.D. behind her name. They order a set for you special and it takes about 1-2 weeks to get them in and then they are fitted.

Are you referring to Costco as a "Off the Shelf" type of store? I don't, now if I was ordering a pair off the internet - yes that would be off the shelf.

This is not my first rodeo. In 1999 I went to a major reputable hearing aid place. Had all the test, molds made, etc. . .I returned them at the end of the trial period dissatisfied. I am not easily satisfied If I pay thousands of dollars I expect quality. I hope in the last 15 years they have improved.

I'll let you know how the professionalism, and products compare. I've been able to determine that Costco's price (for a similar product) is about 50%.

Insurances are dropping hearing aids and Costco is picking up the ball and running. The reviews are good and the business seems to be thriving.

Don,
Jix did make an excellent post.
I would add, from personal experience, that the frequency curves developed in the test booth still often need adjusted a little to the real world. An experienced audiologist can make these adjustments when you go back and explain what needs tweaked after wearing them for a while.
You pay somewhat for the number of adjustable channels in the frequencies that humans are supposed to hear. Old aids only had one. Then they went to two, high and low, now the good ones have 5 or more. Your hearing loss varies at different frequency sections. Most of us guys loose the high frequencies first but as age progresses the lower frequencies we can hear change too. An annual hearing test is a good idea after you start wearing the aids.
There are also multiple programs available in some aids. I have 3 in mine. 1 for normal environment, 1 I call the grocery store environment, so I don't hear all the refrigeration and wild music, and 3 I call TV. It has the higher frequencies turned up some and only uses the forward direction microphones, so other sounds in the room as well as sound from my head back against the LB chair don't interfere with the TV.
There are all kinds of hearing aids out there as stated before. I have progressed to the point where I need behind the ear to get enough power.
Hearing aids are not a last forever purchase and they are expensive whether you pay for service up front or as you go. But decent hearing is important, as they say your brain begins to not recognize words well the longer you wait before getting correction.
Mine help cover up the tinnitus a little as well, but I don't wear them out on the tractor or when I am doing something outside where I could easily loose them.
Good luck on your hearing. You will have to give yourself some time to get used to them. Lots of adjustments can be made to modern aids to make voices and sounds seem more realistic.
Ron
 

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