Diesel Fuel Lubricity And Additives

[DeereMann]

Looks like the Americans have fallen behind the rest of the world again.this time with fuel lube.

We (USA) have the best government that money can buy off.

 

[3930dave]

I haven't spent any money on fuel lubrication products. So far I haven't experienced any pump/injector failures. I might be flirting with death, who knows!! We have equipment and pickups from the 1970's to new this year. In forty years, our only fuel related problems were caused by water.

It's all relative.... if you take a 20,000 hr engine, and knock 40% of it's life off, that is still more hours left than many people will use up in a machine's lifespan.

ULSD is just one issue, water management and proper filtration still matter; even more so today.

That said, keep in mind that you've only been running ULSD likely no more than 7 of those 40 years....

Rgds, D.

 

[moriboy]

You are quite right, it's all relative. I don't put that many hours on any one piece of equipment.

It's all relative.... if you take a 20,000 hr engine, and knock 40% of it's life off, that is still more hours left than many people will use up in a machine's lifespan.

ULSD is just one issue, water management and proper filtration still matter; even more so today.

That said, keep in mind that you've only been running ULSD likely no more than 7 of those 40 years....

Rgds, D.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Additives can be fun if they only lighten our billfolds.

Any one uses cell phone as a sound meter?

 

[3930dave]

Additives can be fun if they only lighten our billfolds.

Any one uses cell phone as a sound meter?

Wouldn't that make them Subtractives then ?

Ping Soundguy, if you don't get any comments here on the Smeter app stuff - he probably has pro hardware lying around that he uses, but may have played with the phone apps.

Rgds, D.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Wouldn't that make them Subtractives then ?

Ping Soundguy, if you don't get any comments here on the Smeter app stuff - he probably has pro hardware lying around that he uses, but may have played with the phone apps.

Rgds, D.

My life is so full of Subtractives per my bank statement.

I will have to remember this new word!

Going to try to get a lot of the grade work done today (before coming storms and the water rises for winter in the swamp) on the new acre parking at church that my son and I have been working to clear of trees for a couple months. We will add some of the AR6200 to the fuel of the tractor and backhoe. Not sure if we will add any AR9100 to the crankcase until we change oil.

 

[Texasmark]

Some people like taking vitamins for themselves and pouring exotic elixirs in to their machinery. It's some kind of thinking where it's an easy no effort way to obtain great gains with little expense. Pop this pill and grow big muscles fast and look like Arnold Schwarzenegger
The only potions, witchcraft and sorcery to pour into a machine is. A oil seal swelling for old high hour equipment. IPA to absorb water from fuel. And waterglass to limp a machine leaking coolant back to the shop.

It's all "snake oil", right! So you say.

 

[azranger]

Cleaning During Combustion - TPx Synthetic Fuel Additives from Total Power, Inc. - YouTube

Water Dispersion - TPx Synthetic Fuel Additives, Chemical Engineering from Total Power, Inc. - YouTube

Burn Test & Emission Reduction - TPx Synthetic Fuel Additives Total Power, Inc. - YouTube

 

[Ken45101]

Deere notes that bio-diesel results in a reduction of fuel economy and power (3% and 5% respectively IIRC.) The gelling and water/algae are critical issues for farm use here.

I've been putting the Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil in my older equipment. Maybe I should put it in everything, including the truck.

 

[3930dave]

Deere notes that bio-diesel results in a reduction of fuel economy and power (3% and 5% respectively IIRC.) The gelling and water/algae are critical issues for farm use here.

I've been putting the Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil in my older equipment. Maybe I should put it in everything, including the truck.

TCW3 is popular (it's widely available, for one thing), and from a lube standpoint, is better than doing nothing.

Water management, cetane boost, and system-wide deposit cleaning are 3 other areas that products discussed in this thread can help with.

At lower volume, cost shouldn't really be an issue (IMO, relative to what's tied up in equipment). At higher fuel volumes, it's hard to beat the #'s Copperhead has, running skids of Schaeffer's.

Water is now a bigger issue, with ULSD. If the only thing a "subtractive" did was help me deal with that issue (well, actually the associated algae problems), then I'd feel I'd gotten my money's worth.

Rgds, D.