December 7

[bcp]

Furrows for defense:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/4789274629/

Bruce

 

[Pixguy]

"Good" pictures there Richard, if one can say that about that tragedy. The second photo, is that the ships after all fires were put out with the fuel leaking out?

 

[ovrszd]

"Good" pictures there Richard, if one can say that about that tragedy. The second photo, is that the ships after all fires were put out with the fuel leaking out?

That's my assumption. On CBS This Morning they ran some Japanese video and some still shots from Zeros.

Another shocking statistic. They talked about how this led us into WWII. In the four year duration of that War just over 400,000 Soldiers died. Just over 700,000 were injured. Two things about that always shocks me.

First, of approximately 1,100,000 Soldiers injured, 36.4% died. Our success rate in keeping Soldiers alive is a lot better today.

Second, in 4 years 400,000 died. That's an average of 100,000 p/year, or 8,333 p/month, or 278 p/day.

We've lost less than 10,000 in our combined Wars spanning the last 10 years.

That generation sacrificed itself and committed itself completely to that War effort.

 

[weldingisfun]

First, of approximately 1,100,000 Soldiers injured, 36.4% died. Our success rate in keeping Soldiers alive is a lot better today.

Second, in 4 years 400,000 died. That's an average of 100,000 p/year, or 8,333 p/month, or 278 p/day.

We've lost less than 10,000 in our combined Wars spanning the last 10 years.

That generation sacrificed itself and committed itself completely to that War effort.

And, that is why we call them our "greatest" generation. However, the young men and women in uniform today, serving world-wide to keep us free and safe are of the same fiber and quality as those who made up the "greatest" generation. Their sacrifices are just a great and all they ask, of those they protect, is simply not to be forgotten. God bless all who are serving and have served.

 

[nybirdman]

Happy Birthday! Is just the 7th that's your Bday or also the year?

Thanks guys;My birth year was 1949 ,so it makes me 65 today......Medicare here I come!
My father and his brothers were all in the South Pacific I think mostly because their father(my grandfather) immigrated from Germany in 1917.They all survived the war and went on to be successful in life.The youngest of the brothers just died this summer at 89.

 

[ovrszd]

And, that is why we call them our "greatest" generation. However, the young men and women in uniform today, serving world-wide to keep us free and safe are of the same fiber and quality as those who made up the "greatest" generation. Their sacrifices are just a great and all they ask, of those they protect, is simply not to be forgotten. God bless all who are serving and have served.

I aree. It's a significant battle when the rounds are pointed at you, regardless of location and time. I served in Vietnam, Desert Storm, 2 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. Soldiers do not expect any special treatment. They just expect support.

When I came home from Vietnam I flew thru the LA airport. I was protested, called a Baby Killer and had tomatoes thrown at me. I kept it all to myself for 10 years after that. All Soldiers expect is support.

I often wonder if the people of this country today could withstand the requirements of a global war. Less than 1% of the citizens of the U.S. are serving the military today. Where's the draft when you need it??? We need a system that mandates citizen support.

 

[bcp]

We need a system that mandates citizen support.

You might enjoy reading this book. One of the main themes is that to be a full citizen with the right to vote and hold office, you must have served the country.

Starship Troopers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bruce

 

[Looking4new]

To all of you whose birthday is today, Happy Birthday.
To those who the U.S. lost on Dec. 7,1941 may they Rest In Peace.

 

[wmonroe]

I aree. It's a significant battle when the rounds are pointed at you, regardless of location and time. I served in Vietnam, Desert Storm, 2 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. Soldiers do not expect any special treatment. They just expect support. When I came home from Vietnam I flew thru the LA airport. I was protested, called a Baby Killer and had tomatoes thrown at me. I kept it all to myself for 10 years after that. All Soldiers expect is support. I often wonder if the people of this country today could withstand the requirements of a global war. Less than 1% of the citizens of the U.S. are serving the military today. Where's the draft when you need it??? We need a system that mandates citizen support.

Thanks to you and the others that have or are currently serving. I had a great uncle that was at Pearl Harbor on December 7th and from what my grandfather told me he was never the same after, kind of went nuts. I only met him a few times as a kid before he passed away. I've been to Pearl Harbor once and it was very sobering to look around and even try to imagine what those men and women went through. We owe an enormous debt to our past and current military.

I don't believe we as a country could survive a war like WW1 or WW2, not because of the military but because of the average citizen. Few today are interested in hard work that would support a strong future, it's easier to protest someone else's decision. Instead of banding together to do what is necessary to support a large war effort I think the country would separate and falter because. Just my opinion and I hope it is completely wrong.

 

[vulcancowboy]

The day that lives in infamy.
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Photo taken from the bridge of the USS Missouri.

We owe them so much! I only recently discovered that a relative of mine served on the USS Missouri and actually witnessed the Japanese surrender ceremony. He passed a few years ago, wish I could have heard his story.