Bucket Hook Placement

[kennyd]

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Thanks to this thread and the Weld-On Hooks Thread I have decided to use the double mounting
Setup from Kennyd's stuff. (see attached)

I think a 2x2 receiver hitch in the middle will round out any hook up I will come across.

On my existing tractor I am using two bolt-on shackle mounts on the top, these work well except with chain it can become a tangled mess really quick.
Chain Hooks will eliminate the mess and hook up will be quicker but I like the shackles for other things so the double setup will be the way to go.

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FYI, we will have a bolt on reciever hitch very soon.

 

[lzicc]

Well, I ended up putting 2 on. Like TripleR mentioned that he didn't use the end ones much which I don't think I will. I was going to put one in the middle, but I may put a receiver hitch there and I'll weld a hook on top of that. I looked at the steel on the bucket that I was welding to, and it is heavy. I didn't see any need for reinforcement. I don't see the bucket bending there at all.

 

[kennyd]

Looks great LZ :thumbsup:

 

[Grove JD]

After seeing this thread I decided I need these on my bucket and I ordered my hooks and shackle mounts from KennyD!

 

[TripleR]

You might find this old thread interesting: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/186929-using-loader-chains-etc.html

 

[hslogger]

Just another way that I did it. Three regular grab hooks ground down a bit on the back side to make a smoother fit. I had this similar set up on all my older tractors. Three is the number you want. If you are gonna tear these up than you aren't working smart

 

[Scrambler82]

I mounted the "Bolt-On Hooks" Hooks over the weekend, one at each pivot point on the FEL.

Also added in the "Bolt-On Hooks" 2x2Receiver, centered on the FEL.



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[skyhook]

I like the receiver idea, I just wouldn't trust the "bolt on" idea, wouldn't trust the bolts,
especially only two on the hooks.
I would feel more comfortable with them welded.

 

[aczlan]

I like the receiver idea, I just wouldn't trust the "bolt on" idea, wouldn't trust the bolts,
especially only two on the hooks.
I would feel more comfortable with them welded.

Shear strength of Grade 8 3/8" bolts is 9,939.6# each (per: https://nucor-fastener.com/Files/PDFs/TechDataSheets/TDS_013_Shear_Strength.pdf). Thats almost 20,000# for 2 bolts.
If they are 1/2" bolts like Ken sells with his kits, they have a shear strength of 17,670.6# each (or ~35,000# for two).

Aaron Z

 

[kennyd]

I like the receiver idea, I just wouldn't trust the "bolt on" idea, wouldn't trust the bolts,
especially only two on the hooks.
I would feel more comfortable with them welded.

Have you seen any of the videos on my website? Or are you just making a blanket statement condemning my product with no evidence?

Under extreme conditions, a weld can fail also.

 

[Scrambler82]

I like the receiver idea, I just wouldn't trust the "bolt on" idea, wouldn't trust the bolts,
especially only two on the hooks.
I would feel more comfortable with them welded.

My only concern is the strength of the FEL Bucket in the middle where the "2x2 Bolt-On Hitch" is mounted but for what I will be using it for it will be more than strong enough.

Shear strength of Grade 8 3/8" bolts is 9,939.6# each (per: https://nucor-fastener.com/Files/PDFs/TechDataSheets/TDS_013_Shear_Strength.pdf). Thats almost 20,000# for 2 bolts.
If they are 1/2" bolts like Ken sells with his kits, they have a shear strength of 17,670.6# each (or ~35,000# for two).

Aaron Z

First off the mounting plate is thick enough to weld on if you so chose to, welded it would add to the overall strength of the bucket.
Second, I do not need more strength than the Bolt-On Hooks will supply.
Third, I recently moved to SoCal and all my tools are still in storage, at least until the new shop is in so mounting was a concern and the "Bolt-On Hooks" fit the bill perfectly.

So for me... Bolt-On Hooks were convenient, are strong enough for anything I need to do and very cost effective, so this is a no-brainer... BUY Bolt-On Hooks !

 

[skyhook]

Have you seen any of the videos on my website? Or are you just making a blanket statement condemning my product with no evidence?

Under extreme conditions, a weld can fail also.

No, didn't mean to condemn your product in any way,
sorry if you took it this way, nor did i see your videos.
The statement "I' made was not blanket, but as I stated, was my own personal preference,
we all have them , you know I prefer "weld's" on my hook's, Do You have a problem with that?

 

[aczlan]

No, didn't mean to condemn your product in any way,
sorry if you took it this way, nor did i see your videos.
The statement "I' made was not blanket, but as I stated, was my own personal preference,
we all have them , you know I prefer "weld's" on my hook's, Do You have a problem with that?

The second part of your post agrees with this statement, the first (bolded) does not.

I like the receiver idea, I just wouldn't trust the "bolt on" idea, wouldn't trust the bolts,
especially only two on the hooks.
I would feel more comfortable with them welded.

Aaron Z

 

[murphy1244]

The second part of your post agrees with this statement, the first (bolded) does not.


Aaron Z

That's his opinion, He is allowed that I hope. Give the guy a break.

 

[skyhook]

The second part of your post agrees with this statement, the first (bolded) does not.


Aaron Z

Well, thats only my opinion, personally...I would feel more comfortable with 4 bolts, one on each corner, but thats just me.
And thats only if I didn't have the knowledge or own a welder.
Their great, I'm sure, for people who don't have the equipment to weld or the knowledge.
Like I said, I am in no way putting them down, they have their purpose and on smaller machines will work just fine, I presume.
I've only owned bigger machines, Grand "L's" and up, so this is where my thoughts are coming from.
I'm also well aware of what a grade "8" bolt can handle.
As an X grade-man, the only hooks I've seen on machines were welded on, so I may be a bit brain washed on them.
Maybe if Ken sent me a free set, I could try them out...lol

Thanks Murphy.