Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly

   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #61  
I like the moderation so far on this board. We have gotten a little off subject and political and I expect them to intervene but they haven't yet. I find the discussion interesting but I am expecting the heavy hand any minute. Hopefully we won't get out of hand and they won't show up.
 
   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #62  
The standard for small engines has always been a Honda in the last twenty years.
Sorry Kohler, you lost it. The Honda engine was finished beautifully, the parts finely made, and
the engine would run it seemed forever. I always adjusted the valves in mine, or had it done, at least once after new, and
then the Honda was like a perpetual motion machine. Always started, never misbehaved unless it was operator error.
I own a small engine from every current engine manufacturer except the Chinese. but I would buy a Lifan for a repower in a heartbeat. I have friends who are glowingly happy with them. Now where I would not put a Chinese engine is on top of my Gravely wing mowers I am renovating and building into a custom double wide rig, actually triple with the main mower.
Currently one has a Honda 340 and the other a Kawasaki single, slightly larger, with oil filter. Both primo engines for their time and both still running 25 years later. Gravely was an All American product for so many years with their Kohler singles and twins. I have the 19hp dinosaur twin. But Gravely spec'd two Japanese models over the Americans. Why? Just to be premium? Or because they really were better.

Time will tell if the Chinese clones have so perfectly copied the Honda that 25 years from now they will still be humming along. Will a standard model Briggs? Maybe a Vanguard. Maybe.......

B&S has built some really junky low priced engines so anyone who has owned one of them is a sure candidate for a far better running Chinese clone on a repower.

btw, I just drove across the entire state of NC to pick up US Made, NC Made farm implements. When I can, I do...
 
   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #63  
The standard for small engines has always been a Honda in the last twenty years.
Sorry Kohler, you lost it.

Most I have heard would say kawasaki has claimed that title, at least in twin cylinder motors. I like the Honda single cylinder motors though.
 
   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #64  
Most I have heard would say kawasaki has claimed that title, at least in twin cylinder motors. I like the Honda single cylinder motors though.

agree completely, should have worded better.
too few Honda twins sold to know much about, wonder if they are good?
they sure are in motorcycles...
I have had Kawasaki twins in a z turn and a JD garden tractor. Powerful engines, great performance,
a little thirsty. But I guess any kind of power needs more to drink.
 
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   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #65  
I wonder if any of the Chinese clone engines have installed EFI yet.
Probably still protected by patents but that hasn't stopped the Chinese before...
Likely they would have to copy what's out there now, and maybe that isn't so easy.

Just like Kia and Hyundai are making luxury inroads now,
why shouldn't Lifan do well with a high tech model with EFI?
Assuming it was stone reliable...and parts were available in regional warehouses.
I think it would be helpful in our market if Chinese mfg would stop calling their engines stupid names like Dragon or
Predator. A model number would be sufficient.
 
   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #66  
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I think it would be helpful in our market if Chinese mfg would stop calling their engines stupid names like Dragon or
Predator. A model number would be sufficient.

:laughing: I have always thought the same. Even kohler's "command" and "courage" are kind of stupid
 
   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #67  
:laughing: I have always thought the same. Even kohler's "command" and "courage" are kind of stupid

I always chuckled that yeah that engine had better have courage cuz it got the bottom of the barrel parts and is going to be run hard, low on oil and put away wet. Courage there young grasshopper. :D
 
   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #68  
   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #69  
I think it would be helpful in our market if Chinese mfg would stop calling their engines stupid names like Dragon or Predator. A model number would be sufficient.

Figured Predator was just Chinese truth-in-advertising/humour. :cool:

Rgds, D.
 
   / Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly #70  
Reading this I just realized I have a 12 hp predator on our snow blower. Bought it direct as a blemished unit, has a 110 v starter never did find the blemish, delivered to my house for 120.00,,, couldn't buy rebuild parts for the tecumpshe for that.
 

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