Selling timber

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gregfender

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It's time for a timber harvest. I have 20+ acres of mixed hardwood acres. I've contacted a forester who is gonna cruise the land in a few weeks. Does anybody have a ballpark per acre value on good standing hardwoods? I'm not planning on clear cutting, just selective harvesting. I'm just wondering if a 20 acre tract will yield anything.
 
   / Selling timber #2  
I sold this past fall a black walnut tree that was about 30' tall about 22" dia that had rotten in the center leaving probably about 2 8' pcs being salvageable. Guy gave me $350 cash
 
   / Selling timber #3  
If you have not been to your county extension office, you need to run down there ASAP. Taxes on timber are clear as mud and the office can help with taxes and other timber questions. Our local office just had, or will have very soon, another class on timber taxes.

NC state used to have a phone number one could call to get timber prices for previous quarters for different regions of the state. I did a quick search and found this, Price Report | Extension Forestry. The reports are in tons not MBF so you would likely have to convert. There should be other reports in MBF. The phone service the state had years ago was in MBF.

Timber prices are very localized and market dependent.

When we sold timber around 2000 we were at the height of timber prices. Both pine and hardwood was $300-400 a MBF and we sold both. While both woods were the same price, we made as much, if not more money on pine, than hardwood because hardwood does not grow as many trees per acre as pine. Most of our woods were hardwood with one fiveish acre section that was all pine. The pine was clear cut and the rest selective cut. We cut about 30ish acres and left out about 15-20 acres. In hindsight we should have cut it all since wind storms have taken down trees we wanted to keep. :mad:

Using a timber agent, getting a management plan, and having a timber logging contract that specifies logging BMP is a very good thing but one still must watch the operation. Both you and the agent.

Later,
Dan
 
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+10 on what dan said "Using a timber agent, getting a management plan, and having a timber logging contract that specifies logging BMP is a very good thing but one still must watch the operation. Both you and the agent."
 
   / Selling timber #6  
As others said, prices vary by region.

AS to how any trees, just depends. How mature the woods is, and the quality. I have seen as low as only 2-3 trees per acre taken in select harvest, and north of 10 per acre.

So I dont think there is anyway to ballpark anything without knowing what you have, species and sizes. Could be $10000, could be $30000
 
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Dan, did you sell a timber deed or do the cutting under hire?

Timber deeds are interesting, they give the logger who buys it the right to take the timber any time in the next year (or whatever the specified time frame is). If they don't meet the deadline, you get to keep the money and the trees. That seldom happens because if the logger can't do it he can sell the deed to someone who can. I think the only time that could happen is if there is a total crash in timber prices after you sell the deed and it's not worth it for anyone to log the trees. The big disadvantage is that the deed owner can come and get the timber whenever they want during the year without coordinating with the landowner.

I looked into doing some logging on my my land several years ago and decided not to do it. I like the wooded land better than the money I would have got.
 
   / Selling timber #8  
It's time for a timber harvest. I have 20+ acres of mixed hardwood acres. I've contacted a forester who is gonna cruise the land in a few weeks. Does anybody have a ballpark per acre value on good standing hardwoods? I'm not planning on clear cutting, just selective harvesting. I'm just wondering if a 20 acre tract will yield anything.
Here's prices in Mississippi for 4th quarter 2014
http://msucares.com/forestry/prices/reports/2014/4.pdf, not that great.
 

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