Oil Change time

   / Oil Change time #11  
What is the humidity generally like in your area ? Moisture can condense in the crankcase and when mixed with dirty oil (with loose carbon in it), can produce an acidic mixture. That would be my concern and would change it out once a year or so. If the car isn't worked hard on a regular basis then the engine probably doesn't get hot enough to drive out all of the moisture (hot enough to evaporate).
 
   / Oil Change time #12  
I change the oil (Mobil 1) in my pickup about every 3 or 4 years, as I only put about 2,500 miles/yr on it. We both hate it and only drive it when we need a pickup. When I had my VW Cabrio, I only changed it that often, too, because its mileage was only about 3k/yr.

Think the "yearly" only applies if you make very short trips so that it never gets fully warmed up. We drive at least about 20 miles each time we run our vehicles due to being about half that from town.

On my diesel generator, it appears to only be getting about 50 hours every 3 years. So, I'll make the first change at 3 years and may let it go 6 years on the next one.

Ralph
 
   / Oil Change time #13  
What is the humidity generally like in your area ? Moisture can condense in the crankcase and when mixed with dirty oil (with loose carbon in it), can produce an acidic mixture. That would be my concern and would change it out once a year or so. If the car isn't worked hard on a regular basis then the engine probably doesn't get hot enough to drive out all of the moisture (hot enough to evaporate).

He lives is southern Arkansas.. Humidity? He has that in spades.
 
   / Oil Change time #14  
Oil starts evaporating it's additives package as soon as the container is opened. For this reason and the acids in the oil from carbon it's recommend yearly.

It kills me someone will buy an expensive piece of equipment and then skimp on maintenance. Spend $25,000 on a tractor then won't spend $25 to change the oil.

Chris
 
   / Oil Change time #15  
Oil starts evaporating it's additives package as soon as the container is opened. For this reason and the acids in the oil from carbon it's recommend yearly.

It kills me someone will buy an expensive piece of equipment and then skimp on maintenance. Spend $25,000 on a tractor then won't spend $25 to change the oil.

Chris

right there w/you on that. i'd stay w/synthetic & change yearly
 
   / Oil Change time #16  
Every vehicle and machine that I have gets an annual full synthetic oil change.
 
   / Oil Change time #17  
Oil starts evaporating it's additives package as soon as the container is opened. For this reason and the acids in the oil from carbon it's recommend yearly.

It kills me someone will buy an expensive piece of equipment and then skimp on maintenance. Spend $25,000 on a tractor then won't spend $25 to change the oil.

Chris

I was wrong. I thought only Filippinos don`t make the maintanance. I am a beliver in syntetic oils, I dissabled a lot of engines with high milage running with it and they looked like new. Only for a new enginge for the break in it is not good.
Alex
 
   / Oil Change time #18  
I am going with full synthetic (Rotella T 10W30) this spring on the tractor. The jeep only ever gets a dino oil change in the fall and it was getting 10W30, but this fall it will get 0W30.
 
   / Oil Change time #19  
My suggestion, if you do change the oil and filter earlier than the oil life monitor suggest, do not reset the trip meter back to 100%. Let the oil life monitor naturally run down to 0% and reset then. This way your other maintenance task, transmission oil change, transfer case change, axle lube change, timing belt replacement, etc, will not be upset into thinking that they need to be done earlier now. On my Hondas, when new, I would changed oil at 1000 miles, then at 4000 miles, then at 7000 miles, at the 7000 mile mark, oil life monitor was at 5%, then I reset it. I now change oil per oil life monitor, which is about every 7000 miles. I get a used oil analysis at every oil change, good information to have. Trust me, if original oil is still in that car, change it now. Philip.
 
   / Oil Change time #20  
The longest I have owned a recent model Honda product was a 2004 Acura up to 120K miles, and I only changed oil when the minder called for it, approx every 10,000 miles (using conventional dino oil). And it also only wanted a filter every other oil change, so the filters went approx 20,000 miles. Never had a lick of trouble from the engine until we traded it, and never any oil consumption between the changes. I think the Honda engineers knew what they were doing when they spec'd that 10K oil change interval and 20K filter change interval, despite it seeming very contrary to older practices.

The only thing I can't comment on is the annual change requirement when time trumps the mileage requirement, other than one data point. Due to low usage, my BMW sports car reaches the time limit before it hits the mileage limit. I skipped the oil change the first year, mainly because I was following the computer maintenance minder as the manual recommended, only to find out later it really doesn't have the smarts to count time other than to extrapolate a service date on the calendar based on mileage (you'd think with that much coding, they could also have built in a simple counter if they wanted yearly oil changes). Anyhow, it got an oil analysis done at the two year mark when it got its first oil change at about 8,000 miles, and the numbers came back looking just fine. So there was no downside to waiting 2 years on that car, at least at low mileage, and running synthetic oil.

That car is no longer under the free maintenance, so I will be doing future changes myself. I expect I will get an oil analysis done again at the next 1-year mark just to educate myself and see if the annual changes are really needed. The car only gets 4,000-5,000 miles per year of mostly highway driving, and with synthetic oil I suspect it can go 2 years between changes without concern.
 

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