The Sun setting over your old homestead. Pictures, let's see them.

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I'm definitely not a morning person, and have always been deeply stirred by sunsets. I just came accross this one, I took a week or so ago, in the beginnings of spring, looking out my front window. The only thing missing is the ten or so Deer that have been hanging around here lately.


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Hey, maybe someone could tell me how to make uploaded pictures larger? Thanks
 
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Our 3 TWHs in the foreground.
 
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Last spring just as the Magnolia tree was blooming, which was much earlier last year than this year...
 
   / The Sun setting over your old homestead. Pictures, let's see them.
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That is very impressive photography. I am not of that talent, but am quite discerning in many areas. I like to think anyway. With what did you take those pictures?
 
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That is very impressive photography. I am not of that talent, but am quite discerning in many areas. I like to think anyway. With what did you take those pictures?

Thanks for the compliment!

Well, this is where I shuffle my feet and look bashful. I majored in photography in college and worked in the industry straight out of school as my first career. Through that, I amassed a camera kit that costs as much as most luxury cars to give me exactly the right tool for any situation. So, did I use fancy equipment to take those pictures? No. I was a bad photographer and too lazy to go get any of it out of the storage cases. :lol: Those are straight out of my iPhone 6, without any retouching or correction. Really, most cameras of any sort these days are quite good in terms of technical performance. Where they often fall short is in getting the right exposure for complex scenes like this. The trick is fooling them into making the exposure you want rather than what they want to do. With my good cameras, their manual mode obviously allows me to tell them exactly what I want them to do to get the picture I saw in my head that made me want to take the shot. With a cheap point and shoot, or in this case the iPhone 6, the trick is learning how to confuse it so badly the auto program goes "Oh I give up!" and shoots what you wanted.
 
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I don't have a smart phone. I am sure, some day soon I will. I saw pictures of a friends I phone this week and after seeing yours, I am VERY impressed. I deal with security cameras, and now, as in the past, can usually only judge a camera in direct side by side comparison with another. Years ago, around 2000, I wanted to buy my first digital camera. Nothing helped make my decision about quality until the camera shop owner threw down a half dozen prints on the counter. It was clear (to me) what was good and what was not. At that time, the Coolpix won as far as I was concerned, but I never bought one. I got a Sony cibershot through my credit card rewards program instead, and it has not been too bad. But I wonder what to buy next? You obviously know your stuff. SLR digital cameras have never made any sense to me. You can see what the CCD sees, so why the elaborate SLR setup? And if one can get the images you have posted, why not just go this route?

Thanks
 
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Two reasons to move to a more complicated camera system: control and lens quality/selection.

The phones are getting surprisingly good, so long as there's enough light (meaning pretty darned bright sun) and the scene isn't very complicated (no high contrast from full sun to full shade). Their color is improving, their sharpness is improving. As far as I know, the iPhone 6 and 6+ currently have the best cameras in them. The downsides are lenses that are faaaar too wide angle for 90% of better-than-throw-away photography. They're designed so that two 14 year old girls can lean together while one of them holds the phone at arm's length and the camera will get all of the girls in. That takes a very wide angle lens. The downside is that when you try to take a picture of anything more than about 10 feet from you it ends up looking tiny! They also fall flat on their face as the light level drops (contrast drops, colors fade, grain increases) for a typical indoor shot at night. I would say that, except for the unfortunately wide angle lens, the best cell phones are where pocket digital cameras were 10 years ago. Honestly, a lot of people are going to be happy with that.

The big problem is control though. For the pictures I posted, the camera fought me tooth and nail to get that picture. It was very pissed off that I wanted the black areas to be black. What it wanted to do was to increase the exposure until the black areas became gray and the sunset itself blew out towards white and lost color. It did this because it tries to average what's in front of it and "save" the shot by making sure at least everything is visible even if it looks bad. With most cell phone cameras, there's little you can do about it to get it to do the right thing. In this case, I had to shine a light into the window in front of me so the phone would see the glare and reduce the exposure. Then, as soon as it reduced the exposure, I turned out the light and took the picture before the software realized the flashlight was gone and changed the exposure again. Not an ideal situation.


For someone who's interested in photography as a hobby, one of the digital SLRs in the way to go. They have better image quality, especially better color accuracy and better low light performance. They have direct manual control of focus and exposure without having to trick the software so you get the picture you want the way you want it. Most importantly, they have a library of lenses available so that you can buy the tools you need to do the kind of photography you prefer. The ability to shoot in the RAW file format also allows much more ability to correct and optimize the image once you're home (modern equivalent to printing the photo yourself in the darkroom).


On the other hand, if you just like kinda nice pictures but would never haul a big camera bag around with you, many of the point and shoot pocket cameras are actually quite good now. I would look for one that offers "exposure compensation", which is basically a way for you to tell the camera to lighten or darken the image compared to what it wanted to do so that it comes closer to what you wanted the picture to look like. 90% of the time, that sort of user will not touch the comp, but for a picture like the ones here, you can tell it to change the exposure by -2 to -5 and it'll darken up the image so the black shadow portions are actually black and that also improves the color in the sunset portion.
 
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From 2004 at the previous homestead in central Oklahoma.

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Thanks for the compliment!

Well, this is where I shuffle my feet and look bashful. I majored in photography in college and worked in the industry straight out of school as my first career. Through that, I amassed a camera kit that costs as much as most luxury cars to give me exactly the right tool for any situation. So, did I use fancy equipment to take those pictures? No. I was a bad photographer and too lazy to go get any of it out of the storage cases. :lol: Those are straight out of my iPhone 6, without any retouching or correction. Really, most cameras of any sort these days are quite good in terms of technical performance.

I don't feel bad at all about being an iPhone-only photographer. A very wise artist once said to me, "the best camera is the one you have with you."
 

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