Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet

   / Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet #11  
For a lot of years, I used Norton's anti-virus, but finally dumped it since I have Charter cable TV, telephone, and Internet, and they have their "Charter Security Suite" at no additional cost. It's by F-secure which I'd never heard of before.

https://www.f-secure.com/en/web/home_global/home

never have problems... until someone at our house goes shopping on the computer. Then when I go to TBN, I get ads

Very seldom does anyone use my computer, but me. But, yep, I get lots of ads for anything I've looked about but they don't cause any problems.
 
   / Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet #12  
I had this problem today while on TBN. My virus protection software detected Exploit:Win32/Fiexp.A with threat level severe. A few months ago while on TBN it detected Backdoor:win32/Simda.gen. I haven't had this problem on other sites only TBN.
 
   / Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet #13  
it's almost deffinately associated with the rotating adds. some of the advertisements are infected. the advertiser could care less.
 
   / Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet #14  
Actually it is the advertisers' intention. TBN (and other sites) creates "holes" in their pages that they contract out to advertising agencies. These agencies pay TBN (and other contracted sites) for use of these empty spots. They in turn take money from advertisers or folk of malicious intent to display ads they create in a cycle on TBN (and other contracted sites). They don't check to see if their customers are legitimate advertisers or malicious individuals seeking to exploit vulnerable systems. I think personally it is all a scheme to prevent liability. TBN doesn't make the ads, the company TBN contracts those ad spaces out to doesn't create the ads, the ads are all made by the third party advertiser (or malicious scum that wants you to be infected). TBN and other similar sites claim to have no control over such things (yet they continue to accept money and renew contracts with known evil advertisers who infect their users).

The best solution is to use the HOSTS file to prevent your system from ever contacting these sites. One of these days there will be an infection imbedded in one of these ads that your security software is unable to catch, then you'll be reloading your infected system (if not dealing with identity theft or something else really bad). It happened to NBC.com users, it can happen here.
 
   / Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet #15  
i'm finding it hard to figure out why you thought you had to correect me, when i said what you said, just chose to use a single sentence.???

We all know how the rotating add space works..

Actually it is the advertisers' intention. TBN (and other sites) creates "holes" in their pages that they contract out to advertising agencies. These agencies pay TBN (and other contracted sites) for use of these empty spots. They in turn take money from advertisers or folk of malicious intent to display ads they create in a cycle on TBN (and other contracted sites). They don't check to see if their customers are legitimate advertisers or malicious individuals seeking to exploit vulnerable systems. I think personally it is all a scheme to prevent liability. TBN doesn't make the ads, the company TBN contracts those ad spaces out to doesn't create the ads, the ads are all made by the third party advertiser (or malicious scum that wants you to be infected). TBN and other similar sites claim to have no control over such things (yet they continue to accept money and renew contracts with known evil advertisers who infect their users).

The best solution is to use the HOSTS file to prevent your system from ever contacting these sites. One of these days there will be an infection imbedded in one of these ads that your security software is unable to catch, then you'll be reloading your infected system (if not dealing with identity theft or something else really bad). It happened to NBC.com users, it can happen here.
 
   / Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet #16  
I was mainly trying to clarify that it is TBN and the company hosting the ads that don't care (because they're paid to not care), but also that the ones that are actually creating the ads to be displayed are acting with malicious intent and targeting the users of TBN and other sites.

I also was adding the point that leaving it up to your security software to deal with doesn't remove the target from you. A good analogy would be:
Leaving it up to your security software amounts to putting on a bullet proof vest and running back and forth across a live firing range in front of all the targets. As long as you only get hit in the vest, you're good to go. Creating proper additions to the HOSTS file is basically the equivalent of not running across a live firing range at all...

If everyone knew how the rotating ad spaces worked there wouldn't be such topics on TBN about it. ;)
 
   / Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet #18  
Why add more stuff to already bloated systems? You're adding an entirely new step for the process of loading a page, it may be quick for you in your environment but it isn't always in everyone else's... It still can't be as fast as the alternative. There is already a HOSTS file (part of Windows) that is processed every time a URL comes up in any application. If you just tell the HOSTS file to look to home (same as having the URLs ignored completely) and all applications are covered. It really does work well and doesn't need very much maintenance (5 minutes, once a year on average).
 
   / Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet #19  
There was some injection attack on our end that I got rid of. So we should be good now!
 
   / Avast Anti Virus and TractorByNet #20  
There was some injection attack on our end that I got rid of. So we should be good now!

it's doing it now - avast is finding it I had to turn it off to log in tto see what I could find outt this morning here is what avast said

infection blocked by avast

URL: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/trailers-transportation/93747-american-made-grade-70-chain.html|{gzip}
Infection: HTML:Script-inf
 

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