Importance of spring on bush hog slip clutch?

   / Importance of spring on bush hog slip clutch?
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If it was a regular castle nut I would have already done so. It's a special nut which would have to be ordered in at JD, which has a big cast iron flange at the base. The springs are still commonly in use but a lot of the other parts are hard to come by as the hog is over half a century old.
 
   / Importance of spring on bush hog slip clutch? #22  
So there is a roll pin that holds it onto the input shaft hidden under rust and grease. It pulled fairly easily once the pin was removed. And the dealer has the spring for $35 which is not too bad. However if I have to purchase 4 clutch plates at $20 each, that puts the clutch repair at more than I paid for the mower.

That big castle nut though... oh boy.
After using all the techniques I know as well as that interesting idea from SpyderLK, I got it to turn - 1/10 turn at a time, using a torch and 24" pipe wrench hit with a 5lb sledge. I had to rig up some impromptu clamps to hold it down using an old tractor axle and c-clamps (which are all now bent). Once it cools down at all, it seizes right back up.

3 hours later, the nut is only a quarter of the way off and I've had enough hammering, I think I'll go indoors and sit down and work on my swather carb instead!
It's coming to work tomorrow to be heated with a pair of cutting torches, hope it will get it hot enough that I can at least ditch the sledge.

It's getting more and more tempting to drill it for a pair of shear pins, slap the thing back on and purchase an splined slip clutch that mounts on the tractor PTO. But if I can torch that nut off I will soldier on.

JRobyn thanks for the info. I had heard from the old timers that this sort of clutch should be lubricated so that it can slip easily without damage, like a motorcycle clutch. So I felt confident pouring ATF all over to free them up :banghead: It did sound kind of stupid but I guess I'm stupid for believing it! The disks look like they are OK, just oily. If I ever get that stupid nut off, I'll clean them up in brake cleaner and they should grab enough to transmit the 35HP and maybe smoke off any remnant. I don't have big trees to mow, luckily.
It moves so youll be OK. -- Keep using the penetrants/Kroil/Liquid Wrench and work the nut back and forth rather than only one direction. Wire brush any exposed threads, etc. Be careful with the heat tho. -Youre near a bearing and seal. I wouldnt worry too much about the seal, cuz you can use a light grease in the gearbox and it wont leak out, but you want to preserve the bearing temper.
 
   / Importance of spring on bush hog slip clutch?
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Actually, I pulled the clutch off the input shaft before going at the nut, so it was safe to cook it. So this morning I brought it to work, clamped it in the big vise and we got it glowing evenly. Our hired man then wrenched it off with a 36" pipe wrench, he is strong like a bull. **** near tore the vise off the bench and had to fight it right to the last few threads, when it spun off.

Well now it is off and the rest of the stack looks in good shape, there are flakes of rust but the metal is good underneath. ATF just wiped off of the discs. Spring on order. Talked to the dealer and I can replace the castle nut for $60, but it's not really damaged. Will probably just clean up the threads, grind the battered faces flat and put lots of anti-seize on it.
 
   / Importance of spring on bush hog slip clutch? #24  
Nothing like having a shop 'Gorilla' :) who can twist anything to *smithereens, (*technical term). Use the copper based anti-seize, it's the most effective, when reassembling.
 
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   / Importance of spring on bush hog slip clutch? #26  
Actually, I pulled the clutch off the input shaft before going at the nut, so it was safe to cook it. So this morning I brought it to work, clamped it in the big vise and we got it glowing evenly. Our hired man then wrenched it off with a 36" pipe wrench, he is strong like a bull. **** near tore the vise off the bench and had to fight it right to the last few threads, when it spun off.

Well now it is off and the rest of the stack looks in good shape, there are flakes of rust but the metal is good underneath. ATF just wiped off of the discs. Spring on order. Talked to the dealer and I can replace the castle nut for $60, but it's not really damaged. Will probably just clean up the threads, grind the battered faces flat and put lots of anti-seize on it.
While youre resting, check every bolt and rivet on the chassis, gearbox fastenings, and blades. It is very important that everything be very tight so no joint moves. Assuring that the whole assembly is rigid is your best preventive measure against damage over time.
,,, That gearbox will literally beat the chassis apart in ruf going if its allowed to run loose.
larry
 
   / Importance of spring on bush hog slip clutch?
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Well thanks for the advice everyone, I got it all cleaned up and reassembled (nut spun on with fingers) and was out hogging brush for a couple hours last night and it works great after some initial break-in and retightening of the castle nut.

Definitely fixing the clutch properly was the right thing to do.
After not even 10 minutes of cutting, I was backing into a patch of 1" trees and I heard a clang and a bark from the clutch followed by smoke. After stopping the PTO I found I had wound up a 12' swather knife that someone had tossed there decades ago, with the knife sections pressing right up against the tires of the mower. Much more torque and I would be out a set of tires or worse! Glad that everything worked the way it should.

I love the mower and it really is a solid beast. It runs so smoothly over the buckbrush and willows that you wouldn't even know you are cutting anything, and doesn't seem to load the tractor much. I guess it is well balanced and has so much rotating mass that it almost does the work itself. Going to have to hit it with the wire brush and give the deck some new green paint, it deserves it!
 
   / Importance of spring on bush hog slip clutch? #28  
I remember my 1st experiences riding on the fender of the 2010, dad mowing a neglected field. Every now and then wed go over christmas sized trees, 6' or more. I kept thinking the mower missed em. Not a sound. They were gone. Finally stopped looking back to check.

,,,Glad youre all fixed up. Keep everything tight. Watch out for the lower gearbox seal. Enjoy.
larry
 
 

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