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$10,000 off incentives are nothing new. My college roommate bought a 2015 2500 4x4 6.0L GMC crew cab Nicest GM truck I have ever seen by the way. It's cloth with all the options like nav, backup camera, brake controller, ect.

He ordered it and paid $10,000 off sticker when it was all said and done. Took it home for $33,000.

Chris

That to me means the truck was over priced by $10,000 to start off with. It's put out there to see who'll bite for the initial pricing and when truck inventories start building up, all of a sudden they come out with an "incentive".
I remember $6000-$8000 incentives back in 98 when I was selling Dodges. I also remember when in 1985, you could buy a 4wd Ford step side p.u. with the 300 c.i.d. motor and 4 spd stick for $8800.

Admittedly I have trouble with a $33,000 p.u. as I did not pay that much for my house.

 

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I wish they didn't make trucks so tall. Not only are they getting taller but it seems they are losing ground clearance the taller they get.

The pick up truck has turned into a phallic symbol. Even a big guy has trouble reaching over and into the bed of today's monsters. To me, they've taken the "pick up" right out of the pick up. Most of them now are just "big truck wanna be's". As in "I just bought a 2015 Chevy, Ford ,Dodge w.b."

 

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That to me means the truck was over priced by $10,000 to start off with. It's put out there to see who'll bite for the initial pricing and when truck inventories start building up, all of a sudden they come out with an "incentive". I remember $6000-$8000 incentives back in 98 when I was selling Dodges. I also remember when in 1985, you could buy a 4wd Ford step side p.u. with the 300 c.i.d. motor and 4 spd stick for $8800. Admittedly I have trouble with a $33,000 p.u. as I did not pay that much for my house.

Back in 2007, my local dealer was selling new F150 RCSB F150s with stick shift for $12,900 ($19K MSRP). Now you would be lucky to find one for under $21K ($26K MSRP) and you still won't have cruise control.

 

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The pick up truck has turned into a phallic symbol. Even a big guy has trouble reaching over and into the bed of today's monsters. To me, they've taken the "pick up" right out of the pick up. Most of them now are just "big truck wanna be's". As in "I just bought a 2015 Chevy, Ford ,Dodge w.b."

My local Missouri farmer friends would take offense at your comments. Throw a 1500lb big bale on the flatbed, then hang another one off the bale stabber and haul them across ditches, thru snow drifts and/or mud holes and your phallic symbol will wilt if the truck is a "low rider" that is easy to reach into. In my country most new trucks are HD, 4x4 and Diesels. They pull trailers, haul hay, carry fuel and a full tool box. Maybe in Rhode Island trucks are wanna be's. Here they work to earn their keep.

 

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Anyone who wants to debate the bailout can start a thread in the Friendly Politics forum. We don't need yet another thread in this forum hijacked by that topic.

I agree with Clay45. And I didn't hear any indication of politics in his statement. He voiced an opinion about sales volumes. The bailout certainly hurt GM. But they are bouncing back. They now claim to have the fastest growing truck sales. When you are down there's only one way to go.

 

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My local Missouri farmer friends would take offense at your comments. Throw a 1500lb big bale on the flatbed, then hang another one off the bale stabber and haul them across ditches, thru snow drifts and/or mud holes and your phallic symbol will wilt if the truck is a "low rider" that is easy to reach into. In my country most new trucks are HD, 4x4 and Diesels. They pull trailers, haul hay, carry fuel and a full tool box. Maybe in Rhode Island trucks are wanna be's. Here they work to earn their keep.

Yup, we counted on the wanna be's to sell the 1/2 tons and I'm talking majority of sales as opposed to specialized need. Take a look at the F 150 that hauls nothing but a few sticks of lumber and a couple bushes from Home Depot now and again. Owners want their truck to ride like a car. For certain they do not need to be this big at all.
Don't tell me there's a politically correct "truck speak" in Missouri .

 

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Yup, we counted on the wanna be's to sell the 1/2 tons and I'm talking majority of sales as opposed to specialized need. Take a look at the F 150 that hauls nothing but a few sticks of lumber and a couple bushes from Home Depot now and again. Owners want their truck to ride like a car. For certain they do not need to be this big at all.
Don't tell me there's a politically correct "truck speak" in Missouri .

Here, if your truck ain't 4x4, HD, Diesel you don't enter into a "truck" conversation.

It's real easy to find a used F150 with not so much as a gravel ding on it. But you gotta go to the city to find it (Des Moines, Kansas City).

A used HD truck that hasn't been worked is harder to find. Winter Texans contribute the most.

I bought my truck from an Elderly Farmer that bought it new. Had 100K miles on it. He kept meticulous service records in a Seed Corn book. It had the typical "old man" dents but was a very sound truck. I've put an additional 96K miles on it with no more than brakes, tires, etc. I figure it's good for another 50K before I get worried.

 

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Before moving rural, I lived in the big city - and, along with my "go fast cars" always kept a truck. My main reasons were because of the lousy road maintenance and coming out on top in a wreck with smaller vehicles.

 

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My main reasons were because of the lousy road maintenance and coming out on top in a wreck with smaller vehicles.

With the "texting" I see on the roads nowadays, this is a very valid reason. It seems 3 out of ten people I pass on the hwy, have their heads down looking at what they're writing. Last year I swerved to avoid a little gal who drifted into my lane going the opposite direction. This was on a 4 lane, 50 mph road. I'm wondering if she is still around.

 

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With the "texting" I see on the roads nowadays, this is a very valid reason. It seems 3 out of ten people I pass on the hwy, have their heads down looking at what they're writing. Last year I swerved to avoid a little gal who drifted into my lane going the opposite direction. This was on a 4 lane, 50 mph road. I'm wondering if she is still around.

My wife's previous car was a pre gangster Chrysler 300. Great riding car, but way too low to the ground for me to feel safe in. She now drives an '11 Grand Cherokee. I feel pretty safe in it and am bigger than most cars on the road. But if given a choice, I'll take my truck.