Silverado gets new facelift for 2016

ovrszd · Jul 16, 2015

houstonscott said:
The reason Ford out sells Chevrolet is because they are cheaper, and if Dodge continues to undercut them they will eventually outsell Ford. HS

Hmmmmm.... I'll have to investigate that. I don't believe that to be true. But I haven't shopped for a new truck either.

Friend of mine is a salesman for Ford, GM and Dodge. Out of 10 truck sales, he says 4 are Ford, 3 are Dodge and 3 are GM. He also keeps me posted on highest selling price for trucks. The current record is $67,800 and that was a Ford.

Most trucks sold in my community are HD trucks. Dodge is in the race because of Cummins.

Funny thing, Ford has had diesel engine problems since late 2004. But they still outsell the other two in HD diesel trucks. Why would that be??

wawajake · Jul 16, 2015

ovrszd said:
Hmmmmm.... I'll have to investigate that. I don't believe that to be true. But I haven't shopped for a new truck either.

Friend of mine is a salesman for Ford, GM and Dodge. Out of 10 truck sales, he says 4 are Ford, 3 are Dodge and 3 are GM. He also keeps me posted on highest selling price for trucks. The current record is $67,800 and that was a Ford.

Most trucks sold in my community are HD trucks. Dodge is in the race because of Cummins.

Funny thing, Ford has had diesel engine problems since late 2004. But they still outsell the other two in HD diesel trucks. Why would that be??

maybe the Ford owners need to replace their trucks more often

and trade in simplicity back at dealer .......... and brand loyalty trumps

I imagine Walmart sells the most disposable diapers in North America, but it doesn't mean they have the best disposables.

KiotiKowboy · Jul 16, 2015

I've always heard the Ford F150 is the top seller among all vehicles. True? ..... I never checked ...

I bought my first Chevy truck last June having been a diehard Ford man forever. This time, I was looking mostly for a "good looking" truck rather than a worker. I do believe the Fords are better built but the Chevys tend to more readily catch my eye. Someone just compared the Chevys to a refrigerator but I've always said Fords look like a box of cereal.

Certainly, my new 2015 Siverado 2500 HD has some go-jo but mostly it's just a driver. That is, until my 2001 F150 gives up the ghost ... but, with only 190K miles, it should make another 10 years.

Diamondpilot · Jul 16, 2015

ovrszd said:
Hmmmmm.... I'll have to investigate that. I don't believe that to be true. But I haven't shopped for a new truck either. Friend of mine is a salesman for Ford, GM and Dodge. Out of 10 truck sales, he says 4 are Ford, 3 are Dodge and 3 are GM. He also keeps me posted on highest selling price for trucks. The current record is $67,800 and that was a Ford. Most trucks sold in my community are HD trucks. Dodge is in the race because of Cummins. Funny thing, Ford has had diesel engine problems since late 2004. But they still outsell the other two in HD diesel trucks. Why would that be??

I think your look at the market is exactly what we see here. Toyota is strong second to the F150 in the 1/2 ton.

Ford has been dominant in the HD segment for a reason.

I started out a GM guy. That left a bad taste in my mouth and my second attempt at a GM truck was even a bigger disaster. I have owned two GM cars. One was a great vehicle, the other was not unreliable but sure nickel and dimed me to death.

Chris

farm boy00 · Jul 16, 2015

KiotiKowboy said:
I've always heard the Ford F150 is the top seller among all vehicles. True? ..... I never checked ...

I bought my first Chevy truck last June having been a diehard Ford man forever. This time, I was looking mostly for a "good looking" truck rather than a worker. I do believe the Fords are better built but the Chevys tend to more readily catch my eye. Someone just compared the Chevys to a refrigerator but I've always said Fords look like a box of cereal.

Certainly, my new 2015 Siverado 2500 HD has some go-jo but mostly it's just a driver. That is, until my 2001 F150 gives up the ghost ... but, with only 190K miles, it should make another 10 years.

If it's a Triton v8 you will only want to run it to 250,000miles. After that they go a little further but then you will put a good chunk of money into plugs coil wires. Good luck even finding a mechanic to work on it

Fordman1981 · Jul 16, 2015

wawajake said:
actually quite the opposite....................Ford continues with its slab side refrigerator box side fenders and ridiculous looking headlights with an eye brow line below the lamp that ends abruptly and on a weird angle......I guess they needed something to not look the same as front end of Toyota , so they threw in the lower eyebrow......

The new F150 headlights look like a J

schmism · Jul 16, 2015

looks like a brick with a windshield tacked on the top. got to have all the aerodynamics of a brick also.

KennyG · Jul 16, 2015

I think brand loyalty has a lot more impact on truck sales than cars. Ford went at the truck market a lot more seriously than Chevy for years and I think a lot of people still see them as a leader, with efforts like the Eco-boost and aluminum. Although I have a Dodge right now, I'm going back to Ford. It's history. My father had a 1955 Chevy truck that was an unmitigated disaster. As soon as he could afford it he switched to Fords and had great trucks. In the 70's he tried a Chevy again and it was a lemon. Back to Ford. I had a couple of good Fords, tried the Dodge. It's OK but I'd rather have a Ford. I'm sure all the trucks have their positive points, but Ford has been building the brand for almost 70 years, since the F-1 and it's paid off for them.

arrow · Jul 16, 2015

I'm wondering when trucks will lose the "big front end thing" that Dodge started in 1994. I'm not saying it wasn't a clever sales tactic to make them look like a "big rig" but that is a lot of wind swept area to over come. To make an aerodynamic truck, a design would lose the big rig look. Ford tackled the fuel mileage thing by making their trucks lighter and still keeping the front end. As long as they all don't start looking like the Jeep Cherokee, I wouldn't mind a more aero looking truck.

ovrszd · Jul 16, 2015

wawajake said:
maybe the Ford owners need to replace their trucks more often and trade in simplicity back at dealer .......... and brand loyalty trumps

I imagine Walmart sells the most disposable diapers in North America, but it doesn't mean they have the best disposables.

I'm not in a brand war at all. Could care less which one is best. Just interested in discussing what drives sales.

My truck is 15 yrs old with 196K miles and works like a champ. Figure it's got another 4-5 yrs in it before expensive repairs. Pulls a GN 20K trailer 30% of the time.

I always struggle with buyers that base their decision on looks.