Rear hydraulic lines

[countrybumpkin]

Is the dealer added valve not a factory second valve? If so then yes there could be a issue with it , the valve should be the same valve as the first unless it's a detent valve but should still work the same as the first

 

[cat fever]

Is the dealer added valve not a factory second valve? If so then yes there could be a issue with it , the valve should be the same valve as the first unless it's a detent valve but should still work the same as the first

I assume it's a factory valve it looks just like the factory one. Except it's not painted.

 

[countrybumpkin]

Ah ok yes if it's bolted to the other one it is. I tried looking up part numbers this morning but I couldn't get the site to come up but I think the valve is the same as the ones on the NX. Have you tried both ports on the original valve and both will control the rate of drop? What about the other port on the new valve what's it do?

 

[cat fever]

Ah ok yes if it's bolted to the other one it is. I tried looking up part numbers this morning but I couldn't get the site to come up but I think the valve is the same as the ones on the NX. Have you tried both ports on the original valve and both will control the rate of drop? What about the other port on the new valve what's it do?

I have not done that yet. Tomorrow I will try the other ports to see how each works.
Should have tried all this the day I was working on the haybine---I was so glad to get done with a job that should have taken 10 minutes that turned into 6 hours that I just put it all away and went back in the house and ate popsicles.
I will post what I find.

 

[countrybumpkin]

I totally understand

 

[N2DFire]

I don't know that much about hydraulics but is it possible the second valve has a float position and you're pushing thru the detent (or the detent ball / spring are missing) and going into float and that's why the haybine is dropping uncontrolled?

 

[countrybumpkin]

Kioti doesn't offer a float valve , just a detent or spring return. But yes if he has a detent valve and is pushing through to allow the detent to engage then it would drop fast.

 

[N2DFire]

Kioti doesn't offer a float valve , just a detent or spring return. But yes if he has a detent valve and is pushing through to allow the detent to engage then it would drop fast.

That makes sense too, I hadn't thought about that. Basically that would open the path from the single cylinder line to the return side of the system with no restrictions and hold it open. Even easier if the detent were broken.

I have a lot of "book knowledge" from my college days & research here; but my practical application is limited to the current CK35 and a few times of playing with earth moving equipment as a kid.

I have been doing research about adding remotes to our CK for use with a top & tilt set-up and I was sure there was a float option so today I dug a little deeper and apparently it's only available on the CK series valve set (who knew - I figured they were all that way).

I found this most recent thread on the subject in the Bobcat section
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/bobcat-tractors/327499-float-action-rear-remotes.html


Either way - I'm curious to see how this works out.

 

[J_J]

Have you considered stacked hyd valves.

3 SPOOL 20 SERIES PRINCE STACK VALVE POWER BEYOND

Just order the sections that you need and set it up the way you want.

You can order any section to suit your needs.

 

[cat fever]

Ok, I tested the ports and here is how they all work.
Both of the left sides you can go up/down fast or slow using the lever.
Both right sides you can control going up with the lever, but no control of going down. It just drops.
Here are a few pictures; as you can see the haybine has a single action cylinder just as J_J described earlier in the thread.
I do appreciate the feedback on my question and confusion.