Who can afford a new truck anymore?

[Loadstar]

They do the same thing here with 7.3's and 5.9's. I looked at an early 99 f250 bone stock low miles and they were asking $19,995. The lady told me that and I laughed in her face (made her mad). I couldn't hold back though. i love it when they say "it's never been chipped" you can't prove that on a 7.3. I got back in my 01 with similar miles that cost me over $10k less and laughed all the way back home. She couldn't tell me anything other than her husband looked it over and he is a certified mechanic. For that price she should have compression numbers posted on the window. For some reason people buy them but fools and their borrowed money are soon parted.

 

[Gods Country]

After reading through this thread it pretty much confirmed why my next truck (if at all possible) is going to be something from the eighties that has been either well cared for or rebuilt.

 

[Parkanzky]

After reading through this thread it pretty much confirmed why my next truck (if at all possible) is going to be something from the eighties that has been either well cared for or rebuilt.

The problem I ran into with that was that the capacities for those older trucks aren't in the same league as the newer trucks. So to tow >10k# with something built in the 80's, you're looking at a medium duty truck commercial truck instead of a heavy-duty pickup truck.

 

[Loadstar]

The problem I ran into with that was that the capacities for those older trucks aren't in the same league as the newer trucks. So to tow >10k# with something built in the 80's, you're looking at a medium duty truck commercial truck instead of a heavy-duty pickup truck.

I think people get a little too carried away with that though. I would rather tow a large load with medium truck than a pickup. I saw a dodge commercial with a backhoe and a skid steer on a trailer.... Yeah right

 

[Tomtint]

People have short memories, The 7.3 was a good motor for sure. However it was not without its problems. Auto transmissions were a 60,000 mile manditory rebuild or replace. Extra cam position sensors should be stored in the glove box, fuel pressure issues were always a threat to leave you stranded, and heavin forbid you need a oil pan... That is a. 1500.00 job all day long. .. I have had 7.3s 6.0s and now have a 2012 PSD. I managed to miss the 2 year 6.4. I can say for certain that my 2012 pulls better and shifts better than any 7.3 I ever owned. Knock on wood it has been trouble free since new.

 

[Parkanzky]

I think people get a little too carried away with that though. I would rather tow a large load with medium truck than a pickup. I saw a dodge commercial with a backhoe and a skid steer on a trailer.... Yeah right

I agree that you shouldn't decide what you can tow based on advertising photos, but my inlaws have a couple of new SRW Ram 3500's and they'll tow (IIRC) 17,000#. That's with plenty of payload capacity to handle the tongue weight of that trailer.

What do you have to buy from the 80's to get anywhere near that capacity?

 

[Jstpssng]

I agree that you shouldn't decide what you can tow based on advertising photos, but my inlaws have a couple of new SRW Ram 3500's and they'll tow (IIRC) 17,000#. That's with plenty of payload capacity to handle the tongue weight of that trailer.

What do you have to buy from the 80's to get anywhere near that capacity?

I agree with both you and Parkanzky, but when you get up in that weight capacity, the driver really determines the safe payload capacity. I recall a post a few years back when a TBN member told of almost losing it because some of the straps broke, his load shifted backwards, and he nearly lost control on a busy highway... It turns out that although he met all of the specs of his truck and trailer, the latter flexxed, breaking the tiedowns, and he went for a ride. Not everybody could have controlled it, but he did.

 

[Gods Country]

The problem I ran into with that was that the capacities for those older trucks aren't in the same league as the newer trucks. So to tow >10k# with something built in the 80's, you're looking at a medium duty truck commercial truck instead of a heavy-duty pickup truck.

I'm sure an older 3/4 ton can haul every bit what a newer equally matched truck can haul. 10k is pretty much max for any truck that isn't a 1 ton, unless you meant 10k gross, which isn't much.
I recently pulled about 9K with trailer for over 300 miles up countless big hills/mountains and my 2002 dodge with the old 360 did just fine.

 

[3930dave]

10k is pretty much max for any truck that isn't a 1 ton, unless you meant 10k gross, which isn't much.
I recently pulled about 9K with trailer for over 300 miles up countless big hills/mountains and my 2002 dodge with the old 360 did just fine.

It's different in other jurisdictions, but here, the only thing you can tow > 10,000# with a general license is a travel trailer.

There's been an arms-race with 1-ton towing capacity, but I suspect the truck dealers here don't tell people that you need a Class A CDL in Ontario to pull +10,000# utility loads with those new light-duty trucks.

Rgds, D.

 

[Parkanzky]

I'm sure an older 3/4 ton can haul every bit what a newer equally matched truck can haul. 10k is pretty much max for any truck that isn't a 1 ton, unless you meant 10k gross, which isn't much.
I recently pulled about 9K with trailer for over 300 miles up countless big hills/mountains and my 2002 dodge with the old 360 did just fine.

What do you mean "equally matched?" A 2015 Dodge Ram 2500 will pull over 17k# in many configurations. I've never seen a 3/4 ton truck from the '80s rated close to that.