Power Line Logging Project

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Could it be your guy is more concerned with "checking"? We've brought cherry to the mills a year after they were blown over with no ill affects. Fungal staining can happen to any wood but again, the trees would have had acquire the fungus while standing. Fallen logs can be obliterated by fungus after many years of lying on the ground. Stems propped up on themselves or runners whether cherry or anything else remain pretty stable.

 

[MossRoad]

I get lots of cherry blow down at our property. If it stays off the ground, it'll still be good for firewood the next year. But if it lays on the ground, especially over the winter, lots of times the bark will be slipping off and rot will have started within one year. After two on the ground, it's really bad.

So, a couple weeks, probably no problem, but if I was going to sell cherry I wouldn't let it lay for months.

 

[Jstpssng]

Could it be your guy is more concerned with "checking"? We've brought cherry to the mills a year after they were blown over with no ill affects. Fungal staining can happen to any wood but again, the trees would have had acquire the fungus while standing. Fallen logs can be obliterated by fungus after many years of lying on the ground. Stems propped up on themselves or runners whether cherry or anything else remain pretty stable.

Not true at all... There is a big difference between firewood and a log which is going to be utilized for trim, cabinetry, or even construction. The problem isn't rot, it's aesthetics. This time of year mills want logs within 2 weeks after they're cut to avoid spoiling. Remember once you cut a log you have two great big wounds: on on top and the other on the bottom.

 

[Jstpssng]

jstpssng The article mentions fungal stains developing in the logs used in veneer. Is this the same problem that would developed in all the cherry? The article only mentions how they keep the logs fresh but not how long it takes for the problems to develop. I assume temperature and humidity have an effect on the fungal staining. It should be turning cool over the next few weeks with night temperatures in the low fifties or high forties, don't know if that will have an effect on the deterioration rate as it relates to the quality of the logs.

Because I cant look up, due to frozen neck, when standing next to the tree I have no idea of the quality of the tree until its felled. Stepping back from the tree I get too far away to see defects or even the top of the tree. My plan is to take a log or two to the buyer and let him give me an idea of what I did wrong or right and then work on the rest of the logs. The forester that walked the property with me seemed to think that the cherry was a good quality and would yield good logs. Thanks for the link to the grading overview that will help with the first attempt at bucking the logs.

Here's another link on the subject. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...aWGAq8&usg=AFQjCNG05jzY0Egw9RE484-smrDU5I1aSA

When it comes to grading logs, it's really anybody's best estimate based on experience until the log is opened up. I strongly suggest you talk to the log buyer at whatever mill you will be sending them to.

 

[timster2]

This is what I will be dealing with in a week or so. This pile is a quarter mile down the road and my property is next on the cutting schedule. These logs were cut last week. Seems the schedule for the work is the feller/buncher comes in and drops the trees then an excavator comes in and grubs the area piling the logs on the side. After that the road builders come in and start their work.

Day One after the fellers do their work


Day Two after the excavators are done grubbing


Log Piles that I will be dealing with

 

[Jstpssng]

Looks like you'll be having some fun for a while. :thumbsup:

 

[dodge man]

To their credit, they cleaned it up and stacked stuff a lot nicer than I would have guessed.

 

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Not true at all... There is a big difference between firewood and a log which is going to be utilized for trim, cabinetry, or even construction. The problem isn't rot, it's aesthetics. This time of year mills want logs within 2 weeks after they're cut to avoid spoiling. Remember once you cut a log you have two great big wounds: on on top and the other on the bottom.

I logged for 30years. Hardwood stems brought to the mills were taken no matter what the age as long as they weren't rotted. We would bring in walnut that was lying around for lengths of time to produce a "greyed" type of veneer. Cherry was used as furniture wood. I've seen and experienced all kinds of stems used for aesthetic purposes. Some fungal patterns were quite beautiful. Unless something different has happened since 20-50 years ago at mills, I'm not sure what you are saying that i've experienced as "not true at all"?

 

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I think I understand your point. I made a claim that fungal effects can happen while a tree is standing. Which they certainly can acquire. I went to the extreme of how fungal attack can obliterate a fallen tree even removing it as "firewood" material. You are talking about a discoloration that can happen with a stacked stem if not sealed, frozen or wetted during warmer months. In my experience, I do not recall an issue where the owner of our logging company ever came back disgusted with the mills not taking our wood. And believe me, we brought in all kinds. Maybe things have gotten more particular today so perhaps I should keep my mouth shut.

 

[Jstpssng]

I think I understand your point. I made a claim that fungal effects can happen while a tree is standing. Which they certainly can acquire. I went to the extreme of how fungal attack can obliterate a fallen tree even removing it as "firewood" material. You are talking about a discoloration that can happen with a stacked stem if not sealed, frozen or wetted during warmer months. In my experience, I do not recall an issue where the owner of our logging company ever came back disgusted with the mills not taking our wood. And believe me, we brought in all kinds. Maybe things have gotten more particular today so perhaps I should keep my mouth shut.

OK, I understand what you are saying now... and it's rather hard to have a discussion when only one person is talking.