Help...shoudnt the tires spin ???

   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #81  
I don't think so. My 1st tractor was an '89 L2550DT, purchased along with 2 others
from a rental company. I still know where 2 of them are, owned by friends. One
has a hoe on it.

It is not as easy as you might think to duplicate ideal traction conditions. High
weight plus soil that allows the deep AG lugs to fully embed, front and rear.
Simultaneously pushing into an immovable pile, and lifting with the FEL at the
same time.


Of course, lifting at the same time as pushing does use some of the engine's
power, which takes away from motive power.

I could never bog any of the L2550s without the hoe mounted or on pavement.
Never. Always spin the tires.

Finally, this is a pre-EPA tractor with about 2000hr, and all 3 had significant
blow-by, readily visible from the hose that hangs at the bottom of the engine.
Clearly, less power was available vs. new.
Thing is, this [bolded] is usually done with the bucket low. Here the bucket is trying to move forward wrt tractor. The tractor push cancels lift at low levels - sometimes more than completely. It isnt until you are using the bucket pushing at the height of the column pins that loader lift is fully added to ground contact force.

Above that pushing increases lift above the normal hyd capability and actually amplifies ground force. - - I use that pushing over trees with the Mahindra. Bucket full, 10' high; pushing and lifting. ... I need to reinforce the bucket edge.
,,,larry
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #82  
It isnt until you are using the bucket pushing at the height of the column
pins that loader lift is fully added to ground contact force.

If you are saying that your forward push forces are actually lifting the FEL bkt up once you reach
a certain height, I see that. It would happen when you push a tree over with the bkt fairly
high. Not at all like lifting a full bkt of dirt while you push forward into a pile, aka standard
FEL use.
 
   / Help...shoudnt the tires spin ??? #83  
If you are saying that your forward push forces are actually lifting the FEL bkt up once you reach
a certain height, I see that. It would happen when you push a tree over with the bkt fairly
high. Not at all like lifting a full bkt of dirt while you push forward into a pile, aka standard
FEL use.
Yes.

,,,Further, however, I am saying that when you pushandlift low and have enuf push to prevent the bucket from lifting, you get no weight transfer to the tractor. Therefore, even tho trying to lift as hard as it can there is no added traction from the push-lift.
 

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