welded a wire coathook with MIG

   / welded a wire coathook with MIG #11  
I welded my 12" stainless steel frying pan with my 120v mig welder, stainless wire and regular 75/25 mix. Pretty ugly (well certainly not pretty), I guess from the wrong gas mix, but the handle has stayed on. Reading posts at TBN educates me on how much I do not know. Even if the discussion goes over my head, I still sometimes absorb something.
 
   / welded a wire coathook with MIG #12  
Reading posts at TBN educates me on how much I do not know. Even if the discussion goes over my head, I still sometimes absorb something.
I hate to be the one who breaks this to you:D. Welding is a trade you never stop learning.
We are lucky here, we have several members who are top notch welders. And they bend over backwards to help. Just to name a few, Gary Fowler, Welder Mike, Arc Weld. Arc Weld is a walking encyclopedia of welding knowledge!:shocked: The guy just flat amazes me with his welding knowledge!:cool:
 
   / welded a wire coathook with MIG #13  
Sheild, i wasnt trying to take sides, just pointing out a tidbit of information that most of would not of thought of. Its those little tidbits of what seems to be insignificate and easily missed if your not paying attention, that helps those of us willing to listen.
 
   / welded a wire coathook with MIG #15  
The BIG problem with Mig welding, and anything structural. Mig is notorious for cold starts! If you can, incorporating run on, and run off tabs are the way to go for anything structural!

And running vertical down hill with Mig on anything thicker than 1/8" is a BIG no, no!

Why?

I hate trying to weld uphill or downhill; I sometimes put a lot of effort into moving the part so I can weld it horizontally. In fact, I can't recall which direction I went, up or down, on my last vertical weld.

And please don't shout at me; while I can't hear worth a crap, I can see just fine.

Thanks,
 
   / welded a wire coathook with MIG
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#16  
That's OK muddstopper, I'm the last guy Sodo is going to listen to. He has told me several times this is just a tractor / home / hobbyist forum. His mind is made up, no one here wants to learn how to weld correctly.

It is a tractor subforum

",,,,,Sodo thinks nobody wants to learn to weld correctly?" You made that up.

I weld vertical and overhead all the time with the MIG, and I don't have trouble with the strength. I'm having an AWFUL time stickwelding vertical, sure could use some instruction there.
 
   / welded a wire coathook with MIG #17  
The problem with running anything down hill, that isn't a fast freeze filler metal like 6010, or 6011. You have to move so fast to stay ahead of the puddle. In doing this, you don't build up enough heat to get good penetration.



I weld vertical and overhead all the time with the MIG, and I don't have trouble with the strength.
Well I'm sure AWS would take your word for it, if you ever had to build something crucial!:laughing:
 
   / welded a wire coathook with MIG #18  
I get it now, it doesnt take a lot of experience to weld a coat hook, no fancy machine or years of training required. I dont know why this tractor forum even has a subforum dedicated to welding. You could have easily of posted your coathook in the build it yourself subforum, no need to bring welding into the subject. Probably doesnt need a subsection about hydraulics either, Surely just about anybody should know how to change a hydraulic hose or fix a leaking fitting. No need to have a subforum where we can talk about it. Heaven forbid that anyody would post a hydraulic question that would require more knowledge than the adverage reader would process. No need to try and learn anything, just grab a cresent wrench and change out that hose.

It is a tractor subforum

",,,,,Sodo thinks nobody wants to learn to weld correctly?" You made that up.

I weld vertical and overhead all the time with the MIG, and I don't have trouble with the strength. I'm having an AWFUL time stickwelding vertical, sure could use some instruction there.
If you really wanted help, You could probably ask a certain person that lives pretty close to you for some help, It might help both of you in more ways than one.
 
   / welded a wire coathook with MIG
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Well I'm sure AWS would take your word for it, if you ever had to build something crucial!:laughing:

I haven't seen AWS post here. Maybe they don't have a tractor (or riding lawnmower):laughing::laughing:

Many many welds are NOT crucial. However, if a joint or repair is crucial (and its vertical downhill :D ) a smart or experienced welder (even non-pros) will ensure there are other welds or gussets that render the "downhill weld" non-crucial.

I get it now, it doesnt take a lot of experience to weld a coat hook, no fancy machine or years of training required. I dont know why this tractor forum even has a subforum dedicated to welding. You could have easily of posted your coathook in the build it yourself subforum, no need to bring welding into the subject. Probably doesnt need a subsection about hydraulics either, Surely just about anybody should know how to change a hydraulic hose or fix a leaking fitting. No need to have a subforum where we can talk about it. Heaven forbid that anyody would post a hydraulic question that would require more knowledge than the adverage reader would process. No need to try and learn anything, just grab a cresent wrench and change out that hose.

If you really wanted help, You could probably ask a certain person that lives pretty close to you for some help, It might help both of you in more ways than one.

Dang Mudd, aren't you warm and fuzzy this morning! :thumbsup:

I'd enjoy a personal lesson on vertical welding, and I'd pick up the stick welder more often. I like it, especially because if it's level I can stickweld like a hero. Stickwelding is more of a challenge than MIG, to make a nice MIG weld is sorta ho-hum. Problem is I go east of Seattle every week, almost never west. If I went west I'd try to weasel a visit. :D

I suspect a lot of members have a MIG in the garage, and want to learn to use it, look into the welding forum for tips and tricks. I bet they like to see things that can be done, with the eqpt they HAVE. Advice how to do the job at hand, with the eqpt they HAVE. And done WELL without years of training. It happens all the time. I guess I don't like to see posts where members are told they have to buy new expensive eqpt when I have been doing exactly what they want to do, for 20 years, successfully. I don't understand the opposition to this, it's part of the learning process. Everything can be improved, but some of the advice I see posted to these hobby/maintenance welders is not an improvement.

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Sodo, I think you missed the tip that was just provided to you about mig welding. The suggestion was made to use a start tap to help with the cold startup weld of a mig. A start tab allows you to get a little heat into what every your trying to weld before actually welding on the part.

You're right I missed it. But I do that sometimes, I recall it bothered another member when I called it "dwelling" which was apparently not an AWS term. I certainly don't do it when welding a coat hook. Not sure why the subject would come up in this thread. I may never weld another coat hook in my lifetime.
 

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