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What? Has this always been the way you thought or are collective Kubota issues changing your thinking? I thought you were Kubota forever.
I thought I was also and have been for 20 Kubota purchases in the past 12 years. The blue dealer is on the hwy on my way home but green is about 4 miles out of my normal travel pattern
Price sounds real good!

I personally must respectfully disagree with JohnThomas on the HST being defective. I have also have owned several HST Kubotas and believe it is fine, heck my MX will also "roll" some if I am in high I'm not in high. I would expect it in high, I don't find it to be an issue. Glad your satisfied with yours and that it meets your expectationsYears ago we had a MF with had some roll to the HST also, not really what I would call defective, just different. Im glad I purchased our BX as a second machine and find it extremely useful and a great performer for its size.I agree 100%


My expectations are that a machine improve with advanced development or at least not go backward. In my opinion this no dynamic braking is not a static or advanced improvement but backwards engineering or defective. I've put my money where my mouth is with Kubota for 12 years and 20 Kubotas and as many know I've been a major supporter of their products. When one screws up I'm not going to stand up for them for what they done in the past or are going to do in the future. I'm a dissatisfied Kubota customer today and have several Kubota products two (2) Zs, one RTV, One F3080 and one SCUT BX25D-1 in my possession today either paid for or paying for.
Am I going to sell any of them for a discounted price? No, not that dissatisfied but will I buy another one?
 
   / just got 25d costs #12  
I thought I was also and have been for 20 Kubota purchases in the past 12 years. The blue dealer is on the hwy on my way home but green is about 4 miles out of my normal travel pattern


My expectations are that a machine improve with advanced development or at least not go backward. In my opinion this no dynamic braking is not a static or advanced improvement but backwards engineering or defective. I've put my money where my mouth is with Kubota for 12 years and 20 Kubotas and as many know I've been a major supporter of their products. When one screws up I'm not going to stand up for them for what they done in the past or are going to do in the future. I'm a dissatisfied Kubota customer today and have several Kubota products two (2) Zs, one RTV, One F3080 and one SCUT BX25D-1 in my possession today either paid for or paying for.
[/B] Am I going to sell any of them for a discounted price? No, not that dissatisfied but will I buy another one?


I struggle with the notion of purchasing 20 tractors in 12 years. ??

The BX25 I purchased in December, 2014 stops just fine when lifting off the pedal, both in low range, high range, 2 wheel and 4 wheel drive. Good luck...
 
   / just got 25d costs #13  
I struggle with the notion of purchasing 20 tractors in 12 years. ??

The BX25 I purchased in December, 2014 stops just fine when lifting off the pedal, both in low range, high range, 2 wheel and 4 wheel drive. Good luck...

Kubota makes more than tractors. They make Zero turn mowers (Have two) F mowers (Had three different ones over 8 years one was a two wheel drive which worked great for level acreage I mow at a different business location but my home is on steep hillside and requires 4wd). To me to trade a machine I've depreciated and buy another new one make business sense. To get a big job needing a bigger machine completed and to trade to a smaller machine makes sense. When new land is purchased or a new plan formed and to need a different machine and then trade makes sense and just trading to always have newer machines under warranty makes sense to me. I do have an F3080 paid off, and a RTV1140 almost paid off and all of them will one day be paid off. Oh by the way, I've owned over 170 cars and trucks since 1964 so a pattern of behavior should be showing thru, I LIKE TO TRADE and I discovered 11 years ago after determining the BX2200 FEL MMM was to small that I could trade a tractor just like a car or truck and get what I thought was more like what I wanted like a B7800 FEL and a BX1500 MMM so one became two and it went from there. People that own a vehicle for years that could afford to trade never made sense to me.:D
 
   / just got 25d costs #14  
PS I also owned a BX25 a couple of years ago which stopped correctly which is why this new BX25D-1 is such a burr under my butt. If I didn't know how it should operate based on past/other currently owned Kubota HST machines it would probably not be so irritating. I just want the Company (KUBOTA) that I have been loyal to for so many years and spent lots of money with them to step forward and fess up that it's an issue which they are correcting for new production and fix the issue for us owners that have already gave them our money. That's all I want. :2cents:
 
   / just got 25d costs #15  
I can easily sympathize with your annoyance, and concern, with this roll-on issue. And your explanation of why you trade (reads like tax advantages with depreciation) now makes sense, as well. I have read that our whole (well, a big part of it, anyway) love affair with CUT's happened because of the Japanese government's policy of making it VERY advantageous for small Japanese farmers to replace their little tractors every three years- there by encouraging the manufacture of small tractors- and a glut of slightly used machines which were cheap enough that they started shipping them to our West Coast, and the rest is history. Now, maybe our domestic farm equipment manf. would have gotten into the CUT business over time on their own, but things would be different.
 
   / just got 25d costs #16  
Instead of trading and having payments I went a different route - bought a larger machine and paid it off and have it for my "farm" work and heavier loader work, then bought a BX for the lighter stuff and grass mowing. Figure it will be paid for shortly and then I have two machines that can cover 99% of my needs and no payments. With a business I guess it would be better to trade more often than someone like me (homeowner) just for the tax advantage or is there a benefit to a home owner that I am unaware of? Just wondering about this now.

By the way - Did this thread get pruned?
 
   / just got 25d costs #17  
Instead of trading and having payments I went a different route - bought a larger machine and paid it off and have it for my "farm" work and heavier loader work, then bought a BX for the lighter stuff and grass mowing. Figure it will be paid for shortly and then I have two machines that can cover 99% of my needs and no payments. With a business I guess it would be better to trade more often than someone like me (homeowner) just for the tax advantage or is there a benefit to a home owner that I am unaware of? Just wondering about this now.

By the way - Did this thread get pruned?

I don't know of any tax advantage for an honest homeowner to trade.
 
   / just got 25d costs #18  
Instead of trading and having payments I went a different route - bought a larger machine and paid it off and have it for my "farm" work and heavier loader work, then bought a BX for the lighter stuff and grass mowing. Figure it will be paid for shortly and then I have two machines that can cover 99% of my needs and no payments. With a business I guess it would be better to trade more often than someone like me (homeowner) just for the tax advantage or is there a benefit to a home owner that I am unaware of? Just wondering about this now.

By the way - Did this thread get pruned?

I don't know of any tax advantage for an honest homeowner to trade.
 
   / just got 25d costs #19  
What? Has this always been the way you thought or are collective Kubota issues changing your thinking? I thought you were Kubota forever.

Greetings sixdogs. I know you wrote this to someone else . . but let me respond with an alternative perspective.

From 2005 until February of 2015 (just short of 10 full years) I planned to buy a BX Kubota product. I had brochures scattered in various reading locations of the bx models as they changed. No one who knew me doubted my resolve or reasons for a BX.

But when it came to final decisions I ended up buying a new Massey scut from a dealer who also is a big kubota dealer. They didn't have an effect on my decision to go Massey because I never even met them till I knew Massey would be my choice.

My point is this . . the scut market has changed in a big way in 2015. Being green or orange or red or blue should be an issue of clothing . . not equipment paint. I test drove every new 2015 bx model and each massey gc model. And for my purposes of 5 to 20 degree slopes and "fit and feel" of units I chose to go a different direction than my 10 year plan.

And several others who planned on Kubota ownership I know are also Massey owners too. Let me be crystal clear: JohnThomas's lack of dynamic braking is barely tolerable for him and he's on flat land activities. If I had no dynamic braking . . I'd never be able to use the tractor because it is a major issue not having dynamic braking on slopes and hills and inclines.

I don't regret having admired Kubotas for 10 years because I knew what they were for handling and use. But had I automatically have fulfilled that plan . . I'd have been incredibly unhappy and my wife would have been worried every time I used it. You can build great machines and fans of them . . . and if you let off the gas in that effort . . you can go downhill faaaast (pun fully intended and accurate).
 
   / just got 25d costs #20  
Let me be crystal clear: JohnThomas's lack of dynamic braking is barely tolerable for him and he's on flat land activities. If I had no dynamic braking . . I'd never be able to use the tractor because it is a major issue not having dynamic braking on slopes and hills and inclines.
Sort of not so. I have some flat rental property with six septic tanks therefore need a BH but my home acreage is almost all hillside and sloping. I have cut out a flat spot for a 24'x48' storage building and am this minute waiting for 25 tons of gravel to spread out on it with the BX25 which will do the job with no issues. It does not keep rolling at speed when the pedal is released, it stops, almost which in a real close situation can be a few inches to far to the point of hitting something but never a danger of the run away tractor. It jus doesn't totally stop on a dime when the go pedal is released like all other HSTs.
Interesting tid bit of info or question. Who or what Company currently owns most of Massey? :D:D
 

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