New Honda Pioneer 1000 ticks all the boxes

[EddieWalker]

You can only haul stuff if you have the back seat folded down. If you have company over and you want to take them down to the lake or wherever, you cannot haul anything with you since there isn't a bed anymore. The second row of seating takes all of it up!!!

At my place, we regularly have parties, go grilling and fishing down at our pond. For grown adults, an ice chest and a bunch of other gear can all ride down there at the same time in my $8,000 Kawasaki Mule. Seems that for twice the money, you get a lot of speed, but no storage. I've never maxed my Mule out and don't know how fast it goes, but if I hit 20 mph, that would be pushing. 99% of the time, it's going to be well under 10 mph.

 

[rmk700]

You can only haul stuff if you have the back seat folded down. If you have company over and you want to take them down to the lake or wherever, you cannot haul anything with you since there isn't a bed anymore. The second row of seating takes all of it up!!!

At my place, we regularly have parties, go grilling and fishing down at our pond. For grown adults, an ice chest and a bunch of other gear can all ride down there at the same time in my $8,000 Kawasaki Mule. Seems that for twice the money, you get a lot of speed, but no storage. I've never maxed my Mule out and don't know how fast it goes, but if I hit 20 mph, that would be pushing. 99% of the time, it's going to be well under 10 mph.

Yeah, it's preference. I don't like long wheel base. I have a trailer to haul items if need be. Don't care for CVT belts unless it's on a snowmobile. Plus I've been Honda loyal for over 30 years with there 3 wheelers, ATV's and now SXS's.

Had the Pioneer 700-4 and was really unhappy with high gearing but being loyal it's all I was dealt with up until the 1000 showed up. Yes, expensive and the power is not what I was after, it was the new Dual Clutch Transmission, with low range and 6 high and 6 low that I was after and the ability to crawl.

Up to about 45 miles now and continues to impress.

 

[Piston]

You can only haul stuff if you have the back seat folded down.

This is the number one reason I like the pioneer so much. Flip the seats up for company, flip them
Down for work.

 

[EddieWalker]

Honda sure has been spending a lot of money on marketing the Pioneer. The have commercials on just about every channel, and just about every magazine I read has at least a full page add, and some have 2016 calender's. Sometimes I wonder if they are doing the same thing on the different forums. Any chance you work for them?

I hope it works for them, I have always considered Honda to be the engine brand that everyone else compares to. It wold be nice if they came out with a model that was based on doing work around the ranch type platform instead of seeing how fast it can go and trying to compete with the off road racing around the countryside market. But I can see where that's what will make them the most money if they can catch up with the other off road racer market.

 

[ultrarunner]

^^^ Have not seen anything here... if not for TBN I would not have known about it.

Actually... not much sportsman, farm/ranch advertising at all.

 

[DK35vince]

I hope it works for them, I have always considered Honda to be the engine brand that everyone else compares to. It wold be nice if they came out with a model that was based on doing work around the ranch type platform instead of seeing how fast it can go and trying to compete with the off road racing around the countryside market.

I think they tried that with the Big Red and it didn't sell.

 

[Duwop]

I think they did with the Pioneer 700M2 rated to haul 1000 lbs and tow 2000 lbs I use it around my small farm which is in places steep and rugged. I load up a 6 1/2 x 12 trailer with fire wood and have no problems. Run to feed store down the road and load up and back never any issues. Bed carries my tools for mending fences, pulls sprayers for fence line control and just about anything I need it to do. Speed well it has a top speed of 43 mph but really that is more speed than needed for my property but good if my buds want to meet up at a local ATV/UTV park for a little fun even they have no use for the Polaris RZR speed here in the mountains. Heck running tight trails at 25 mph is really fast enough. Egress in and out of for a small to med frame man is easy enough could maybe use bucket seats but I prefer the bench. I tend to think the nay sayers of the Pioneer are more of the younger groups who want to brag about the speed but rarely get to use it most of the owners of the 700 Pioneers I'm in contact with understand the utilitarian abilities and use them as they were designed. Notice how I haven't bashed any other manufactures but will say that you don't have to spend 17k for a work vehicle that most people will never use it to half of its capabilities because if your trailer for wood is that big or your spray rig is your going to drag it behind your big tractor then everyone will know where you spent your money. Or you can just go back to throwing everything you need in the back of your pickup just as most of us did until we all decided that wasn't good enough and bought into the UTV craze.

 

[KubotaToy]

Aaahhh, took a few pages to turn this into the old which brand is better UTV/ATV thread, bottom line, any brand that will do what "you" want them to do is the right brand for you, I mean you bought it to do what you wanted (or liked) right. Very few on the market are similar enough to compare anyway, everybody tends to compare apples to oranges when it comes to UTV/ATVs. Heck, my first was one of the cheapest, belt driven UTVs made (American Sportsman Powerwagon), never had a problem in 400 hrs pulling logs out of the woods with it, it did everything I wanted it to do but my wife wanted a cab. I have yet to see any brand I would not own and pay for if it did what I wanted. Which leads me to why I posted on this thread, I would like to own a Pioneer 1000, I bet it would be fun, but I really do love my air conditioned and heated cab on my RTV1000 which was the deal breaker for buying anything else.

 

[ovrszd]

Aaahhh, took a few pages to turn this into the old which brand is better UTV/ATV thread, bottom line, any brand that will do what "you" want them to do is the right brand for you, I mean you bought it to do what you wanted (or liked) right. Very few on the market are similar enough to compare anyway, everybody tends to compare apples to oranges when it comes to UTV/ATVs. Heck, my first was one of the cheapest, belt driven UTVs made (American Sportsman Powerwagon), never had a problem in 400 hrs pulling logs out of the woods with it, it did everything I wanted it to do but my wife wanted a cab. I have yet to see any brand I would not own and pay for if it did what I wanted. Which leads me to why I posted on this thread, I would like to own a Pioneer 1000, I bet it would be fun, but I really do love my air conditioned and heated cab on my RTV1000 which was the deal breaker for buying anything else.

Well stated.

It's as if the various manufacturers want distance between themselves and the competition. I don't consider the Pioneer as a competitor of the RTV at all. They both have 4 wheels. That's about the end of it. Each have their individual primary purpose.

I'd challenge any manufacturer to match the RTV cab.

I own a Rhino and a RTV. Nothing about them is similar. The primary purpose of each makes the other look seriously inadequate.

No surprise there. Just like my 3 tractors. All they share is the name "tractor".

 

[TableRocked]

Kawasaki Pro FXT LE owner here, but likely would have seriously considered the Honda if their rear seat and bed design was like the Mule Pro FXT. We have elderly folks come visit and that second row access is not easy, and in addition, it appeared to me it would be a pain in the butt getting sand, dirt, and gravel down in the cracks where the seats fold down. I wasn't thrilled to go CVT and would have preferred the Honda transmission or a full hydrostatic, but, so far, the Pro FXT has surpassed all my expectations. Bed conversion is stellar. Ease of getting into both rows is superb. Torque is massive. I felt bad for Honda that they keep going with that same bed design as it likely is perfect for alot of folks, it just didn't seem the most practical or usable to me.