home owners insurance

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We havn't had a lick in insurance for about thirty five years. If you try and have everything covered you become insurance poor and they always find a way out of a claim anyway. The honest people have to pay for the dishonest one and the scum sucking lawyers going about their evil business.

Now I think we all understand you are using exaggeration to make a point here. I mean really, if you haven't had insurance for 35 years, how would you know about whether insurance made you poor, or whether your claims would not be paid? In reality of course neither is the case; most folks find some form of insurance affordable and for sure 99% of claims that should be paid are likely paid just fine. as an insurance underwriter, I have seen every lie told by supposed honest folk, who just seemed to be oh so forgetful about that accident out of state, or that disappearing jewelry loss the wife put in, for the third time. You see, all claims paid go into a database, and they surely have your number. I was amazed at how dishonest people were in applying for insurance. It may take a year or two, but it usually catches up with someone who omits the truth.

So Industrial, you may think the insurance companies are big ripoffs, and personal injury lawyers the scum of the earth (gosh, we agree there) but I've worked the other side of the street and from the insurance company's perspective they often have a right to be skeptical. It's funny, or maybe it's not, but one thing about Obamacare with guaranteed issue is folks don't have to lie so much on their medical questionnaires. I wrote a lot of Prudential medical insurance for folks thirty years ago and I just shook my head when I got the carbon copies of inquiries back regarding all those trips to the heart specialist, for example, that weren't noted. Insurance is basic contract law. both parties have a responsibility for honest behavior.

and yes, we all pay for the system abusers. The premiums of the many pay for the claims of the few. Only way it can work. Unless you want the government in there and that historically has often not worked out well.

Most of us cannot afford to not have health insurance, car/truck insurance or homeowner/farmowner insurance. Most of the rest is negotiable.
 
   / home owners insurance #24  
Our house is insured for replacement cost, not market value. Without being specific, our house in our neighborhood is only worth 33% of what it would cost to replace it. Makes you think. And for what we pay annually for replacement cost insurance, it would take us about 52 years of premiums invested at about 5% compounded annually to save up the replacement cost. Our insurance premium is about 1/95 of our annual income. It's worth the piece of mind. I've spent more on pizza this year than on our home owner's insurance. :licking:
 
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#25  
Auto insurance you have to have no way around that but house insurance not so much. Everything I have is paid for except my house and we all know the rate they give you is not a fair price you are paying for all the FAURD out there people commit!.
 
   / home owners insurance #26  
Does your mortgage holder not require you to have insurance on the structure??

For me, whether or not it's paid for is secondary to my desire to have insurance. Having suffered a catastrophic loss I pay insurance premiums to prevent having to "start" over if it happens again.

I totally understand a person's reluctance to pay those premiums if said person has not had a catastrophic loss. After a few years it appears you are paying for nothing.

We all complain about insurance premiums. After a loss we all are immediately calling the insurance company wanting monetary compensation. :)
 
   / home owners insurance #27  
Does your mortgage holder not require you to have insurance on the structure??

For me, whether or not it's paid for is secondary to my desire to have insurance. Having suffered a catastrophic loss I pay insurance premiums to prevent having to "start" over if it happens again.

I totally understand a person's reluctance to pay those premiums if said person has not had a catastrophic loss. After a few years it appears you are paying for nothing.

We all complain about insurance premiums. After a loss we all are immediately calling the insurance company wanting monetary compensation. :)

Funny how that works isn't it?:) Being in the insurance selling business, I am not going to comment too much, but Richard, I bet you were really glad that you were covered. What a sense of relief to follow the tremendous sense of loss. If we all had reliable crystal balls we would know when and when not to buy insurance. The easy availability of working crystal balls would put insurance companies out of business. But until they get them really working, or invent a time machine, I guess we will just have to buy insurance and take our chances, just like the insurance companies take their chances on the other end too.
 
   / home owners insurance #28  
nicely said Jim. Some of us just don't like to take unnecessary chances, and insurance lets us accomplish that.

the rate they give you is not a fair price you are paying for all the FRAUD out there people commit!.


You are absolutely correct there Jack. All the costs of cheating have to go in the big pot of expenses, against which premium income must be raised. And fraud costs us all 10 extra percent. Let me repeat that. 10 percent. Sadly a large number. But that doesn't mean you throw the other 90% of honest folk's claims out the window. I agree with you there are cheaters and liars out there. But your objection is like objecting to the cost of the local police who keep you safe.
Your insurance keeps your assets safe, so your savings don't burn up in smoke.
The insurance company doesn't have a gun to protect you, but it does have
an ironfast promise to pay. Someone to watch your financial back.
Frankly most of us like that, trying to provide security for our families. For the people we are
responsible for, which is why so many of us buy life insurance. Insurance isn't bad, crooks are bad.

Ten percent. Huge amount of money actually. You have a right to be annoyed Jack. We all do.
Insurance Fraud | III
 
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Funny how that works isn't it?:) Being in the insurance selling business, I am not going to comment too much, but Richard, I bet you were really glad that you were covered. What a sense of relief to follow the tremendous sense of loss. If we all had reliable crystal balls we would know when and when not to buy insurance. The easy availability of working crystal balls would put insurance companies out of business. But until they get them really working, or invent a time machine, I guess we will just have to buy insurance and take our chances, just like the insurance companies take their chances on the other end too.

Yeah the insurance co. take a risk but its in their favor man! nothing for free in the greedy world! Right now I have to have H.O in a few years different story the house and land will be paid in full! and like I said the house is not worth what the premium will be in 2 years. If you really want to know why I don't want insurance after its paid for it looks like the marks bros.built this house! so why throw good money into a rat hole? if the house burns down I lose the 10 grand I put in nothing else!.
 
   / home owners insurance #30  
I spread my business between four companies and this includes the rentals and car collection.

I'm guessing things are different outside California because getting coverage is anything but certain...

At one time it was homeowners and then a lot of companies pulled out... later there was a crisis with auto.

Today... the biggest problem is rural folks are getting dropped left and right and getting a new policy can be near impossible.

I looked a nice home with a shop... all sprinklered with 20,000 gallon water tank and back up power...

The current owners pay $2600 on their 1 acre piece of paradise and it is a one mile from the nearest fire hydrant...

I ran it by all my brokers and not one could write if for me and this is with 30+ years of no claims.

The property did sell and is now insured by Lloyd's of London... at 3x what the previous owner paid and very limited coverage.

The reality is here... you will not be able to find new coverage for your rural property and if you do... it will cover less and be more costly...

Rural is determined by distance from fire hydrant, topography and type... forested, pasture, etc...

Oh... if you heat with wood you may very well have to get rid of the hearth...
 

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