Grappling fun - A Picture Thread....

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How much would a 4x4x4 tote weigh full of oak? I have a forklift that I could use to load it, but it would be nice if my tractor could lift it.

Figuring on 66% fill density of the 64cf of volume of the tote, and 63# per cubic foot of green red oak, you're looking at 2660# plus the tote.

If you milled it all into cants and stacked them at near 100% density by volume, you're looking at 4,000#.
 
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I understand how you load the first round but doesn't it fall out when you open the dual lids to load the second round??

Yes it does, the way I do it, is if there are two pieces of wood like that (or large rock, or hay, or whatever you want to move) I go up to the first one, open the grapple, close the clamp, pick up, drive to the second one....then....position the grapple over the second piece, dump the grapple, lower it pretty close to the second piece (closer to the ground that way), open the grapple (first piece falls to the ground underneath the grapple arm), then lower the grapple in the dumped position over both of the pieces of wood, then clamp and away you go.

There are times when I'm picking up stumps (I often move multiple stumps at a time) where I can lower the grapple, pick one up (lets say on the LEFT side), then drive to the second one, but right before I get up to it, I lower the LEFT grapple clamp onto the next stump I'm going to pick up (which already has a stump in it) and position it so when I open the grapple, only the RIGHT (empty) side opens, then pick up, reposition, and pick up the next stump in the RIGHT side.
It sounds confusing to type, but it pretty quick really. You can't take too much time though because since the clamps share a circuit the closed one will start to open and equalize with the second one, but this happens slowly and with a stump it has enough odd shape to it that you won't drop the first stump. I can't do this with large rocks though.
 
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This "Grapple Picture Thread" has derailed.

Let's try to get back on topic fellas, there are plenty of discussions about tires elsewhere on the forum.
(Or, if you just HAVE to have these discussions, at least post a photo with every off topic reply :))

More pics please. :)

Sorry - my fault Piston.

Thanks for the picture and description of both tire types on your Mahindra. That cleared it up for me.

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Mostly I like the "I'm going to eat you" look of the thing.

Me too :laughing: I probably would have bought that grapple if they were around "back then".
 
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Oak is 45lbs/cubic foot. Figure 25% air space (??? correct) and you'd be looking at a 4x4x4 tote weighing about 2000lbs. If no airspace then up to 2800lbs. As the weight is necessarily centered at least two feet in front of pivot pins it might be doable with a big CUT loader (2500-2800lb lift) so long as you don't need to lift to full height. It would be close though.

I use a tree boom to lift a water saturated swimming raft out of the ocean and move it for winter storage. I don't know how much it weighs but by using the tree boom I can keep the weight right at the pivot pins.
 

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   / Grappling fun - A Picture Thread.... #686  
Well, by the numbers my tractor won't lift it. Of course I'm going to try it, but I'll probably have to use the forklift.
 
   / Grappling fun - A Picture Thread.... #687  
How much would a 4x4x4 tote weigh full of oak? I have a forklift that I could use to load it, but it would be nice if my tractor could lift it.

It could be somewhere north of 3000 lbs. Green red oak is supposed to be about 61 lbs per cubic foot. I guess it would depend on how it was stacked and how much air is in the tote vs. how much green wood.
 
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Oak is 45lbs/cubic foot. Figure 25% air space (??? correct) and you'd be looking at a 4x4x4 tote weighing about 2000lbs. If no airspace then up to 2800lbs. As the weight is necessarily centered at least two feet in front of pivot pins it might be doable with a big CUT loader (2500-2800lb lift) so long as you don't need to lift to full height. It would be close though.

I use a tree boom to lift a water saturated swimming raft out of the ocean and move it for winter storage. I don't know how much it weighs but by using the tree boom I can keep the weight right at the pivot pins.

Did you figure dry oak or green oak?.. I got figures of 61 thru 64 lbs depending on species of oak for green..
 
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I was thinking white's number and posted red. Red is 61#/cf.

Wood Species - Weight at various Moisture Contents

Seasoned it's only down to 57# though, so it's still gonna be heavy. Mixing up your totes with stuff like pine or aspen for easier fire starting would further reduce the weight. I don't plan on selling too many pure oak totes. The price paid isn't high enough a premium to make up for not getting rid of my junk trees. :)
 
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Did you figure dry oak or green oak?.. I got figures of 61 thru 64 lbs depending on species of oak for green..

I didn't look carefully. Just saw that the first number that came up when googling "oak weight" was 45lbs/cubic foot. Must be well dried given what the others have posted.
 
 

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