lets discuss preps for disasters

   / lets discuss preps for disasters #421  
I think a lot of you are over-worrying about storing gasoline and water. While it is a real problem, it can be virtually eliminated by rotating your stock and using a filter/water separator.
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   / lets discuss preps for disasters #422  
I wonder if EMP considerations are worthwhile. Many Military Surplus Gensets on E-Bay are EMP shielded. But then, after an EMP event, you may not have anything left working anyway.
I was the Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Warfare officer for my unit. Nuclear EMP can effect equipment a long way away - but if one goes off, more will probably go off. If that happens EMP is likely to be of small concern.

Keep in mind that our smallest modern warheads are 10-1,000 times more powerful than the WWII bombs, and many missiles have multiple warheads.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #423  
Also keep in mind, you do not need a nuclear explosion to deploy an EMP weapon.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #424  
I think a lot of you are over-worrying about storing gasoline and water. While it is a real problem, it can be virtually eliminated by rotating your stock and using a filter/water separator.
Anyone remember these?
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I understand your point and agree but I also think there is a big difference between water and fuel...

Just using Katrina as an example...for those in despair...other than working (sanitary) facilities...drinking water was the most coveted thing...populations that rely solely on public water systems could have a hard time with nothing more than a sustained power outage...water is much more important than fuel...but they're connected if water has to be boiled before consumed and for whatever reason there is no electricity for a long period...it could get very bad very quickly....IMO.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #425  
I understand your point and agree but I also think there is a big difference between water and fuel...

Just using Katrina as an example...for those in despair...other than working (sanitary) facilities...drinking water was the most coveted thing...populations that rely solely on public water systems could have a hard time with nothing more than a sustained power outage...water is much more important than fuel...but they're connected if water has to be boiled before consumed and for whatever reason there is no electricity for a long period...it could get very bad very quickly....IMO.

What I meant was water IN the gasoline. Not drinking water. Should have been clearer.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #426  
A few thoughts on disaster prep:

We have a propane/gasoline generator for the house, and a 500 gal propane tank. Tank rental cost is $75.00 per year as opposed to $50.00 for a 250 gallon tank. The larger tank pays for itself by allowing me to time our purchases of propane for late summer when prices are lowest. Essentially we always have 250 gallons of propane in reserve for emergencies, more in the winter.

The well is on a separate transformer too far from the house to run from the house generator, but I do have a second generator that will power it. I have the pump controls wired so there is a cord and plug in the normal circuit, just unplug and plug into the generator to run from it. Keep two or 3 5 gallon gas cans around with stabilized fuel, good for years. The well will produce drinking water at 5 rpm, so running it for a 15-20 minutes a week is all that is really necessary. Keep in mind, that your bathtub is fine for storing water for toilet flushing, which will keep the ladies happy. Men use the comfort tree in the woods. All you need is a bucket to fill the toilet tank.

But, in a real emergency, I have a small electric fuel pump from a car which I can use to take gas out of a car and into a can to feed the generator. Always keep the car at least 1/2 full. No excuses, no exceptions. Use the gas from the cars first because it is not stabilized, then from the cans. Before you say: "just siphon the gas out" try doing that. You do not want a snootful of gas in an emergency.

Canned food, some freeze dried, and then dried beans and rice will last for quite a while. Don't forget your vitamin pills. They will make up for a lot of bad eating in a tough situation. Rice, beans and sugar can be stored in their original containers placed in a new galvanized garbage can. I have yet to see a mouse that can get into a tight new one.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #427  
You can survive several months without food, only several days without clean water. Drinking water that'll make you sick is even worse. Gallon jugs are good , but tend to leak, especially if sat on concrete. Also you don't want to eat if you don't have clean water to drink. Water heaters and water bobs for bathtub can be a good emergency water source. 55 gal food grade barrels and 275 gal cage totes are better. Lexingtoncontainer.com is a good place to see what's available.
As far as fuel we have 1000 gal propane, 300 gal non ethanol gas & 100 gal diesel on hand. These are used constantly and replenished at about 50%. Gas/ propane generators, Agm battery banks & solar panels are always at the ready JIC.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #428  
We use 7 gallon Reliance Aqua-Tainers. FEMA guideline is a gallon a person a day so two or three of them can be stacked for emergency use. We have five of them.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #429  
I already have an AC/DC arc welder that I'm comfortable with, so I don't really want or need a generator with a welder. I've looked at some advertised on Craigslist and it seems that the engines on them are either Kohler or B&S. I'm not a fan of either. I have seen a few nice Onan diesel generators that I like with the Kubota engine. My parents had one in their RV and my dad just went to the Kubota dealer for parts. That was quick and easy. I'm also seeing quite a few of those trailer, giant light generators for sale. I'm guessing they where from the rental yards. Prices are pretty good, but I'm sure they are at the point where they are going to start requiring repairs.

My needs are for powering my house when the power is out for extended periods, but also to run my welder when building fence on my land. I want to weld up my corners in place.
 

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