Solar power & Wind Power for residental use

[buickanddeere]

Can some one tell me the cost to store radioactive material for 4.5billion years? Probably can just ignore that cost. No government is likely to last that long, so we can ignore it. We keep putting government money into how to handle the storage, transporation, and processing of the material. Billions of research $$$ hasn't come up with the answer. Sorry, just the laws of physics getting in the way here.

Want to know something that is immediately hazardous and will cripple or kill in hours or days ? It's the cow dung on your boots. Just ask the citizens of Walkerton . Radiation is simple and easy to find with a frisker. Nobody here seems to worry about cow crap being lethal.

 

[sodamo]

It did in Ontario

I'd challenge you to prove it, but you can't.

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[sodamo]

It did in Ontario

Finding 1 or a dozen exceptions doesn't negate the fact the industry was built on subsidies and government intervention.

sploid.gizmodo.com

 

[Egon]

Drakes Landing seems to do okay.

 

[NorTracNY]

Someone must have the cost to store waste from nuclear reactors. How about for just 1000 years?

 

[KennyG]

Someone must have the cost to store waste from nuclear reactors. How about for just 1000 years?

In the US, the storage of waste is funded by a fee of 0.1 cents/kw-hr of electricity generated by nuclear plants. The Federal government collects this and supposedly uses it for waste disposal. This fund has between $20 and $25 Billion in it now. A few billion has been spent on Yucca Mountain, a perfectly good solution, which has been canceled by the combined efforts of Harry Reid and Barack Obama.

Right now, further contributions to the fund have been suspended, because the US Congress, which took responsibility for the waste 30 years ago, can't decide what to do.

From technical standpoint, the experts agree that Yucca Mountain could have been a permanent solution within the available funding. They also agree that the potential long term source of energy in the "waste" make a "retrievable secure storage" solution more logical. However, scientific consensus seems to be of value in climate change but not in nuclear energy, for some reason.

 

[JCByrd24]

Who pays for the fossil units to operate on spinning reserve to backup wind and solar? The capital and operating costs are still ongoing but no income is being generated . Now somebody has to pay to backup the free power? Who is somebody?
What is the source of power outside of the 6-8hrs of mid day production ?

Are any of these really new challenges for the power industry? You have all kinds of different power suppliers out there running different types and sizes of plants during different periods of supply and demand, fuel prices up and down, maintenance, etc. If you don't do it better than the next guy you don't succeed, it's called capitalism. There is not guarantee that if you invest in a big power plant it's going to run at 100% profit making potential for you or the next guy. Rules against solar are rules against true capitalism, but that is the way things are going these days, with industry buying the government.

There will always be night and cloudy days, so there will always need to be traditional power production. In a world with optimized solar production the peak demand for traditional sources would simply shift from current sunny days and night might become the key profit making times.

This is all really well beyond the scope of the initial post.

 

[Alien]

new batteries (Tesla and others) are now being introduced in Australia to provide energy for night-time use. Apparently Australia is the guinea pig for this technology, however, it is looking real good. Battery and inverter is around $9000 to add to an existing system. Our Pre-existing inverters are not deemed suitable.
The free power comment has me laughing. Nothing is free. You should know that. Do I really need to explain it?

 

[buickanddeere]

Finding 1 or a dozen exceptions doesn't negate the fact the industry was built on subsidies and government intervention.

sploid.gizmodo.com

Your proof ?

 

[MossRoad]

Your proof ?

Here's $4,500,000,000 pieces of proof....
https://www.smartgrid.gov/recovery_act/project_information.html