Logger's eye.

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Those guys could complete the splice in about a minute or less. It was impressive to say the least.

A good friend of mine went to a logging show a few years ago. He said guys were doing Logger's eyes in 30-seconds!:shocked: I can't even find the right strand to start with in 30-seconds.

 

[hslogger]

We always called these a Molly.

Choker setter on the talkie tooter to the donkey puncher
says, "Hey, we need a new block and molly down here"
10-4, coming down on pronto!

 

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Choker setter on the talkie tooter to the donkey puncher
says, "Hey, we need a new block and molly down here"
10-4, coming down on pronto!

I never worked in the woods. This is what I did for a living.

 

[muddstopper]

Looks like a harder version of this:

We used to do a similar cable eye on the winch cable of our old BigStick log loader. Almost but not quite. We would leave the tail a little long and then take a piece of soft water pipe and slip over the tail and the main cable. We would take a hammer and flatten the pipe to keep it in place. Worked very well and the pipe kept the sticky ends from poking your fingers. we found that any type of clamp would get snagged in the brush and also made running the cable under the log a lot harder than just the flat piece of pipe. I never figured the pipe added anything to the strenght of the eye except for keeping it from becoming unraveled.

 

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If I remember correctly, a Molly Hogan / Farmer's eye is rated at 70% of the capacity of a mechanically-spliced eye.
We were never allowed to use Farmer's eyes for overhead lifting. For years we made most of our rigging using the Logger's eye. Then the safety department put a stop to that! If something went wrong the company wanted a 3rd party to sue.

 

[LD1]

I always do the farmers eye cause its easy. I can do one faster than putting clamps on. But always leave the tail long and use electrical tape. Nothing to grab like the clamps. But I dont use cable much at all.

I know that most say this eye is 70% but I have never broke an eye.....always the cable.

Last time I did up any cables it was 3/8 cable I think. We were pulling down an old barn. I made up some long cables to tie the near wall to the far side wall up in the loft. Otherwise, we figured we'd just pull the near side wall out and have a barn still standing that would become ever more dangerous to re-chain to.

It was an endeavor getting a stubborn old barn down, but when it finally came down and we dug the cables out, one of them broke, but the eye didnt let loose.

I have broke cable a couple other times, but never the eye.

 

[muddstopper]

I cant ever remember breaking out the eye on any of our cables. broke many a one where the hook contacts the cable in the eye. Our biggest problem with the cable was the pipe we used to protect the ends would get hooked on stuff and pulled enough to close up the eye. We used sliding hooks like this one, https://www.google.com/search?q=sli...=TzLHVrziEonl-QGYpI-ADQ#imgrc=lpRfXVgLSJLYUM:. I have one we used to use back in the 1960's and still use it on my long choker cable. I keep a 100ft 3/8 choker and two snatch blocks on my truck when ever I go to the woods. The cable has a eye on each end, one to slip over the trailer ball and the other to hook to a log or tree with. Makes retreiving a tree from below the road or up on the hill side a lot easier than bucking and toteing the wood one round at a time. 100ft of loose cable is a pain to deal with when you roll it up for storage, seems it always gets tangledup when I go to unroll it.

 

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I think the biggest problem you'll see with the eyes. Is people don't follow the D-Factor rule, and use to small of a shackle. Which that will cut the eye, not pull the eye apart.

I put a chain around an old stump this morning, and started the tractor so I could pull the chockers tight, and melt the ends of the strands off closer. Makes the eyes look a little better.

 

[bcp]

I knew a small shackle, etc. made for less strength, but not what size and how much, so I had to look it up. It looks like a shackle in an eye causes less problem than the main line going around a small item. like in a sling. More good diagrams at the link.

Bruce

From:

[h=1]D/d Ratio and the Effect on Sling Capacity[/h]
The D/d Ratio is the ratio of the diameter around which the sling is bent, divided by the body diameter of the sling.

Example: A 1/2" diameter wire rope is bent around a 10" diameter pipe; the D/d Ratio is 10" divided by 1/2" = D/d Ratio of 20:1

This ratio has an effect on the rated capacity of slings.



Eye & Eye Slings

The LOOP of an eye & eye sling has nearly DOUBLE the strength of its body. For this reason the D/d ratio in the LOOP is just half as critical as opposed to when the sling is used in BASKET hitch.



If the shackle body has AT LEAST the same diameter as the sling (D/d 1:1) the capacity need not to be adjusted.

 

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You would have to have a pretty big choker for this hook to cut the eye! :laughing: