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[dragoneggs]

I put a couple floor outlets in a 15 x 23ft family room floor thinking I would want lamps close to a sofa sort of in the middle of the room. It turned out that we rarely used them and they weren't in the right place when re arranging furniture which my wife likes to do often enough. I put the brass covers in the carpeting and they were an eyesore to my wife and not comfortable to step on. Hindsight, wish I didn't bother. I guess unless you absolutely know your furniture and power location will be fixed, I would think hard about putting them in the floor. I didn't notice how big your room is and if it is much bigger than mine is, then maybe you need it.

Outlets, can't put too many. Also anywhere you might install a bench such as garage, put them high enough to clear and extra. Water/sink in garage too. 220v power in garage if you plan a shop of any kind. Also outside outlets, not just per code. Think about xmas lighting, power for electric tools, etc. Have fun... adding outlets is pretty cheap.

 

[EddieWalker]

The 2x2 is a bearing surface. The bearing surface has to have enough wood fibre structure to prevent crushing.

The notch is within spec, so is the bearing surface.

It's the beam that the 2x2 is attached that has to hold the weight. The ability of the 2x2 to support and transfer weight to the beam is through the fasteners used to fasten the 2x2 to the beam.

Then you add the toe nails of the floor joists to the beam and consider the ability of those fastens to withstand shear forces.

I think the engineers, contractors, framers and inspectors probably have it figured out.

Again, just because we haven't seen it done.or done it, doesn't mean it is not as good or better than methods we have used.

Since I've never seen this done before, I will wait and see what the inspector says about it. What I'm positive is wrong is that they used nails to support the load. This will fail every inspection I've ever had. At the very least, there needs to be a lag bolt of some kind under each joist. In some parts of the country, bolts are required and lags are no longer allowed. I wouldn't even guess what size it needed to be, I would go to the blueprint, or give the inspector a call and ask him to come out and take a look right away.

 

[mikefromnh]

I love build threads on TBN! Really brings out the experts


Five pages on a ledger, LOL. fwiw almost every basement framed with dimensional lumber around here uses the same method for the center beam.

As far as the lack of a header above one opening.. It looks like there is going to a change in the roofing direction? So likely no need for a header since there be nothing above there for a header to support. I'd rather have room for insulation then an unnecessary header.

Looks like the framing crew knows what they are doing for their area. And are doing a fine job.

 

[tractorshopper]

Justin, I flipped a house built in the early '70s that had the same ledger board set up with a 2X2 run and toe nailing or end nailing. It was holding fine in 2005 as when it was built. I think as others have pointed out there are different methods in different areas. Just wanted to tell you I've seen the same done before throughout that house and I couldn't find a single issue.

 

[justinramani]

Justin, I flipped a house built in the early '70s that had the same ledger board set up with a 2X2 run and toe nailing or end nailing. It was holding fine in 2005 as when it was built. I think as others have pointed out there are different methods in different areas. Just wanted to tell you I've seen the same done before throughout that house and I couldn't find a single issue.

I appreciate the insight- seems like a pretty standard practice out here. I'm guessing that local codes really dictate the differences in construction.

 

[justinramani]

I noticed today that they installed a joist hanger under the main support beam in the living room.

 

[crackerjack222]

This is late to the electrical outlet discussion but here goes anyway: When I had my current house built I did the wiring myself. I put in extra outlets in each room and still wish I had done more. The master bath and the kitchen are both located farthest from the water heater (it is centrally located). I wish I had put a 220 outlet under the kitchen sink and bathroom lavatory so I could locate an on-demand water heater in each location. The delay for hot water is just greater than I like.
The electrical service entrance is in the attached garage where there is a 200 amp 24 slot panel; it now has 10 slots filled. It feeds thru to a 200 amp 40 slot panel in the house that has one vacant slot, it feeds thru to a 125 amp 16 slot panel that has four vacant slots and used to feed thru to a 60 amp 8 slot panel that was used for my HVAC system. This last panel was removed last year when I replaced the HVAC system.
I also ran an empty conduit from the first floor, behind where I knew I would locate the TV to the game room above and on into the attic above the game room. That conduit is now pretty much filled with speaker wires and cat-5 cable (no longer used now that I have WIFI). I also installed empty conduit in the walls in what was to be my office. Those were used much later when I installed the cat-5. I also ran coax cable and phone cable to anywhere I even thought I would use a phone or tv, ie, just about every room.
Much later we bought a surround sound system for which I did not plan. I mounted the rear speakers to the ceiling a few inches away from two HVAC registers and used the airflow to blow a thread with tissue attached to each register. I used the thread to pull a string and that to pull speaker wires to the registers.
When we were about to upgrade the HVAC, I was concerned because there were six thermostats throughout the house in a six-zone system. Each thermostat except the master was served by three conductor cable. Those cables are stapled to the studs and several are in inaccessible locations now. Fortunately the new system communicates over a twisted pair, so the three conductors were adequate for the new system.
I also ran power to the boat house behind the house using direct burial cable. I now wish I had put it in conduit, altho I have not had any trouble with it. I ran 4" DWV pipe under the sidewalks and driveway before they were poured. That was used later to run the sprinkler system pipes and wires, phone and TV cables.

 

[justinramani]

The framers were out again today. They have started to frame the roof trusses. Here are some pictures of the work....

 

[EddieWalker]

Not happy with how they did the gable ends for your roof. In time, they will begin to sag. The deck sheeting is all that will hold them in place. Here is a link that shows how it should be done.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/529102656196748258/

 

[jlgurr]

Not happy with how they did the gable ends for your roof. In time, they will begin to sag. The deck sheeting is all that will hold them in place. Here is a link that shows how it should be done. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/529102656196748258/

Does this method suggest the gabled truss will be "shorter" than the other trusses to accommodate the outriggers?

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