You need balast or you will trash your front axle!!!! really?

[Luke'sScreenName]

I'm afraid this thread is testimony to the poor education system in the U.S. for at least the last 50yrs. (in both basic physics AND descriptive writing) :confused3:

(and I fully admit I have trouble writing clearly enough in this format to prevent SOMEONE from misinterpreting me)

 

[k0ua]

I'm afraid this thread is testimony to the poor education system in the U.S. for at least the last 50yrs. (in both basic physics AND descriptive writing) :confused3:

(and I fully admit I have trouble writing clearly enough in this format to prevent SOMEONE from misinterpreting me)

+1....:thumbsup:

 

[gladehound]

I'm afraid this thread is testimony to the poor education system in the U.S. for at least the last 50yrs. (in both basic physics AND descriptive writing) :confused3:

(and I fully admit I have trouble writing clearly enough in this format to prevent SOMEONE from misinterpreting me)

Agree. I definitely have writing issues. That part of my brain doesn't work.

 

[ovrszd]

Not being "educated" I must apply logic.

The FEL mount on a tractor is midship for the same reason it's at the rear of a SS. If you want the bucket located relatively close to the front of the tractor, rather than 6 feet farther forward, and you want to retain the ability to lift the bucket to an acceptable height, the mount point must be moved rearward on the tractor.

I contend that is the primary reason for location of any loader mount. The resulting influences are because of physics or mathematics or whatever "educated" term you wish to apply.

 

[gladehound]

I was attempting to bolster your statement by explaining the point in another way.

Ah... in that case :thumbsup:

 

[jenkinsph]

I'm afraid this thread is testimony to the poor education system in the U.S. for at least the last 50yrs. (in both basic physics AND descriptive writing) :confused3:

(and I fully admit I have trouble writing clearly enough in this format to prevent SOMEONE from misinterpreting me)

You are not alone, whether others admit it or not. I remember working out similar problems in structures class in college but that was forty years ago. While I have a vague idea of how to sum up the forces and reactions I don't know enough to teach it to others in a clear and concise manner. The engineer that commented earlier in this thread is correct, you have to solve the problem with a sum of the moments about the axles both clockwise and counter clockwise to get the answers. He was promptly jumped on and has not commented further, I don't blame him.

I was hoping that someone would eventually post an example with the necessary equations to resolve a sample problem but that hasn't materialized yet or I missed it.

 

[LD1]

From the operating manual for the Hurlimann

Maximum Loads Admissable on Tractor:

Front max 1000 kg
Rear max 1400 kg
Total 2100 kg

Must be the new math... ;-)

I don't think that is unusual, the 2100kg load can be a result of other factors such as brakes and ability to stop, engine power, steep grades and many others.

Not any different than a pickup truck.

Look at your door sticker. It will have GAWR for both front and rear. And then a total GVWR. If you sum up the GAWR's, it will be more than the GVWR.

My dodge 3500 has a front axle rating of 5200 and a rear of 9350......and a total GVWR of only 12,200.

 

[Jay4200]

"You need rear ballast or you will trash your front axle"

Highly unlikely. You'll blow the tires off the rims WAY before you damage any axle component. I've done it literally 100 times (before I finally put in tubes).

 

[LD1]

I tried tubes in mine......hate them. Too many thorns and flats. A thorn guard sealer (like slime) works alot better on a tubless tire as there is thicker material for the sealer to adhere to and work.

One of these days, I am gonna get the fronts foam filled.

 

[DK35vince]

Highly unlikely. You'll blow the tires off the rims WAY before you damage any axle component. I've done it literally 100 times (before I finally put in tubes).

I guess if you have a low tire or you run to low of pressure in the tires that might be true.