The day the music died.

   / The day the music died. #181  
And just to be clear, I personally don't care for most of Prince's music. Its just not my style. But there's no denying his talent and generosity.
 
   / The day the music died. #182  
Prince was a notorious abstainer of everything back in the '80s when he first made it big, no drugs or alcohol. He was generous, down to earth and well liked in his community.

Being 5 foot 2'' he always wore hi-heels that's what got him while doing his usual dancing /gymnastics on stage, hurt his hips I believe and got hooked on pain killers.

I never cared much for his music myself but then there is something like this >>>

Not only was Prince an abstainer and a faithful church-goer, his one documented brush with the law occurred when a member of his road crew was involved in a misunderstanding after a prank went awry. When the guy was arrested Prince volunteered to go with him to jail and was arrested too. Down at the station he posed for pictures and signed autographs and generally charmed everyone and no charges were filed.

I was never a big fan, but he doesn't deserve being mentioned in the same breath as the junkies and jailbirds in this thread.
 
   / The day the music died. #183  
Yeah. You won't find Prince in any of the same record books as Merle Haggard.... bad checks, grand theft auto, burglary, attempted escape from jail, Hotel San Quentin.... :rolleyes:

Let's have the youth idolize that rebellious spirit that defines great country music....

WELL, I WAS DRUNK THE DAY MY MOM GOT OUT OF PRISON
AND I WENT TO PICK HER UP IN THE RAIN
BUT BEFORE I COULD GET TO THE STATION IN MY PICKUP TRUCK
SHE GOT RUN NED OVER BY A DA**ED OLD TRAIN
I think you may be confused a bit??...that was a David Allen Coe rendition of a Steve Goodman ditty...IIRC...?
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Oh, and don't get me started on that guy they called "The Man in Black".

Go ahead and get started if you're referring to J. Cash...a singer that was NEVER incarcerated for anything...he was an OK singer but no where near the poet M. Haggard was...!

 
   / The day the music died. #184  
I think you may be confused a bit??...that was a David Allen Coe rendition of a Steve Goodman ditty...IIRC...?
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Go ahead and get started if you're referring to J. Cash...a singer that was NEVER incarcerated for anything...he was an OK singer but no where near the poet M. Haggard was...!

No, I knew it was Coe. I was posting as an example of what I hear in pretty much every country song I hear.... ;)
 
   / The day the music died. #185  
No, I knew it was Coe. I was posting as an example of what I hear in pretty much every country song I hear.... ;)

You do (as usual) make a good point...but at least you can usually understand the lyrics...!!

...your posts in regard to Prince reveal you're proud to be from where you are...just like an "Okie from Muskogee"...I'll quit harping on Merle with one final comment...nobody's pardoned Martha Stewart...!
 
   / The day the music died. #186  
I think you may be confused a bit??...that was a David Allen Coe rendition of a Steve Goodman ditty...IIRC...?
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Go ahead and get started if you're referring to J. Cash...a singer that was NEVER incarcerated for anything...he was an OK singer but no where near the poet M. Haggard was...!
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Good point about being a poet. My contention has always been, if song writers weren't allowed to use rhyme, most songs would have never been written, or sung.
 
   / The day the music died. #188  
From his own personal Bio-page on his official web site: Merle Haggard | Merle Haggard Official Website | Home of The Hag | Bio

He left home at 15 with a friend, and the two were picked up as suspects in a robbery. Though innocent, he ended up in jail for two-and-a-half weeks. It was the first time he tasted prison life, but it wasn稚 the last. In and out of jail over the years for small crimes, he found himself doing serious time in San Quentin at the age of 20.

敵oing to prison has one of a few effects, he told Salon in 2004. 的t can make you worse, or it can make you understand and appreciate freedom. I learned to appreciate freedom when I didn稚 have any.?br>
His musical ability offered hope for a future. A fellow inmate at San Quentin, nicknamed Rabbit, saw that clearly. When Rabbit came up with an escape plan, he told Haggard that he could come along, but probably shouldn稚, since he had a good shot of making a career from his singing.

As Rabbit had predicted, Haggard痴 music was his way out of a dead-end life of small crimes and intermittent jail time. Released from San Quentin in 1960, he joined the then thriving Bakersfield country scene, which eschewed the smooth country-politan sound coming out of Nashville for a harder-hitting honky-tonk groove.

From his wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merle_Haggard

Haggard committed a number of minor offenses, such as thefts and writing bad checks. He was sent to a juvenile detention center for shoplifting in 1950. When he was 14, Haggard ran away to Texas with his friend Bob Teague ...Haggard was later sent to the juvenile detention center, from which he and his friend escaped again to Modesto, California.

His debut performance was with Teague in a Modesto bar named "Fun Center", being paid US$5, with free beer. He returned to Bakersfield in 1951, and was again arrested for truancy and petty larceny and sent to a juvenile detention center. After another escape, he was sent to the Preston School of Industry, a high-security installation. He was released 15 months later, but was sent back after beating a local boy during a burglary attempt?br>
?arried and plagued by financial issues, he was arrested in 1957 shortly after he tried to rob a Bakersfield roadhouse. He was sent to Bakersfield Jail, and, after an escape attempt, was transferred to San Quentin Prison on February 21, 1958?/span>

?hile in prison, Haggard discovered that his wife was expecting a child from another man, which pressed him psychologically. He was fired from a series of prison jobs, and planned to escape along with another inmate nicknamed "Rabbit". Haggard was convinced not to escape by fellow inmates. Haggard started to run a gambling and brewing racket with his cellmate. After he was caught drunk, he was sent for a week to solitary confinement where he encountered Caryl Chessman, an author and death row inmate.

Meanwhile, "Rabbit" had successfully escaped, only to shoot a police officer and return to San Quentin for execution. Chessman's predicament, along with the execution of "Rabbit", inspired Haggard to correct his life. Haggard soon earned a high school equivalency diploma and kept a steady job in the prison's textile plant, while also playing for the prison's country music band, attributing a 1958 performance by Johnny Cash at the prison as his main inspiration to join it. He was released from San Quentin on parole in 1960.

In 1972, after Haggard had become an established country music star, then-California Governor Ronald Reagan granted Haggard a full and unconditional pardon for his past crimes?br>
In my understanding, serving 3 years for attempted burglary and attempted escape is not an "overnighter", but does it really matter?

For me the point is more that not too many people have stones they are qualified to throw.

I'm out.
Thomas

My post was referring to "The man in black", not Haggard.
 
   / The day the music died. #189  
He spent three years in jail/prison...
Merle Haggard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Married and plagued by financial issues,[12] he was arrested in 1957 shortly after he tried to rob a Bakersfield roadhouse.[18] He was sent to Bakersfield Jail,[11] and, after an escape attempt, was transferred to San Quentin Prison on February 21, 1958.[19] While in prison, Haggard discovered that his wife was expecting a child from another man, which pressed him psychologically. He was fired from a series of prison jobs, and planned to escape along with another inmate nicknamed "Rabbit". Haggard was convinced not to escape by fellow inmates.[20] Haggard started to run a gambling and brewing racket with his cellmate. After he was caught drunk, he was sent for a week to solitary confinement where he encountered Caryl Chessman, an author and death row inmate.[21] Meanwhile, "Rabbit" had successfully escaped, only to shoot a police officer and return to San Quentin for execution.[20] Chessman's predicament, along with the execution of "Rabbit", inspired Haggard to correct his life.[21] Haggard soon earned a high school equivalency diploma and kept a steady job in the prison's textile plant,[21] while also playing for the prison's country music band,[22] attributing a 1958 performance by Johnny Cash at the prison as his main inspiration to join it.[23] He was released from San Quentin on parole in 1960.[24]

Refered to "the man in black"
 

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