450cause the seat to lower enough that 0P 50hr service and evaluation

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Ventrac 4500P, JD 770, Kubota KX41-2 mini exc, 2015 Kubota SVL90-2 Tracked Skid Loader.avator
Delivery was April 6, already at 52hrs. Completed 8hr oil and filter change on April 9 and replaced hydraulic filters on April 29. Wish that hydraulic oil had some tint in it, almost impossible to see in sight tube.
As a brief evaluation most hrs have been mowing with the 72" side discharge deck with mulch kit installed. Plenty of rain here in mid Missouri so mowing is about every 4-5 days and about 10 acres. So far everything has performed flawlessly and the cut quality is the best I've ever had. I have sharpened blades once already and replaced 1 blade. The RH blade was bent (not sure how that happened), deck was a demo unit so maybe bent when I got it. I have also been trimming trees and removing brush in some areas with the power bucket and grapple. I was really surprised as to how well limbs and brush can be cleaned up and transported to a brush pile while never leaving the drivers seat. I have dual wheels which if I were using the bucket/grapple extensively I would remove the front dual wheel because any trailing brush from the bucket gets run over by the outside wheel and pulled out of the bucket. If the outside wheel were to be removed the bucket width would then exceed the wheel width and I believe would solve that issue. I also enjoy the flip up deck feature since i scrape the deck after every mowing and grease the spindles also. Since i mow acreage, I sharpen or change blades frequently and the flip up feature is immensely appreciated (Thanks Ventrac). Only change I have made so far was replace the adjusting bolts on the armrests to raise them up higher. When I sat in the seat my weight would cause the seat to sink low enough that the armrest would hit the secondary SDLA lever when reversing. I could probably solved that by adjusting seat to firmer setting but found the ride a little harsh. Anyway all is good and I'am enjoying the Ventrac life so far. Good day to all.
 
   / 450cause the seat to lower enough that 0P 50hr service and evaluation
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Sorry about thread title, somehow got wrong stuff posted there.
 
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   / 450cause the seat to lower enough that 0P 50hr service and evaluation
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Hi Murph. I have 52hrs on it and it is a 4500P, so no propane. I messed up the thread title and that is probably why you thought I had propane.....sorry.
 
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Hi Murph. I have 52hrs on it and it is a 4500P, so no propane. I messed up the thread title and that is probably why you thought I had propane.....sorry.

What engine is P and why change hydraulic filters at 50 hours? They change the manual again?
 
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The 4500 comes in a variety of engines. 4500K (Briggs & Stratton Vanguard 31hp), 4500P (Kawasaki Digital Fuel Injected 31hp), 4500Y (Kubota diesel 25hp), and a 4500ZKubota 32.5hp gas with a propane option. As far as a change in the manual, I'am not sure. My manual calls for hydraulic filters to be changed at 50hrs. Oooops, just double checked manual. Oilters to be replaced at 100hrs Guess I'am ahead of the game on that one. It's been one misterke after another today and it's not even 9:00am. Need more sleep.

What engine is P and why change hydraulic filters at 50 hours? They change the manual again?
 
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I had 900 hours on my first 4231 liquid cooled and the hydro filters were never changed. Nothing but oil & filter and grease. The first 4231 ran flawlessly and was worked hard with many attachments. I got the 2nd 4231 because I found out that EPA was not going to allow them to keep using the 31 HP Briggs/Daihatsu Gas and I got one of the last ones they made with that engine. This 4231 now has nearly 900 hours on it and still running strong - general oil & filter every 100 hours after the first 2 changes at 25 and 50 hours - Amsoil - keep everything greased, keep air filter clean, clean screen on radiator frequently. I run summer and winter - 5' mower, excavator bucket, 5' blade, aerator, spreader, leaf blower, snow blower (handles 2' of snow easily), 5' sickle bar, skid logs, pull out and tow stuck vehicles --- people are amazed what this tractor will do and I keep the Ventrac Brochures in both vehicles and on the tractor to hand out.
 
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BK, sounds like you've had a couple good units. I'am a firm believer in routine maintenance and agree with your philosophy of oil, filters, grease, and radiator screen clean after every use. I'am so ocd that I'am embarrassed to say but am in the process of waxing and detailing the tractor and attachments right now. Got about 2 more days before time to mow again. Where did you come up with the sickle bar mower? I have been searching for one to mow pond banks with. All I find is one that connects to a bucket and is 38" long. Gotta be to close to the water with that one for me.
 
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Ventrac had a Sickle Bar mower made for them by another company for a short time. I had asked my dealer and asked on this Ventrac forum about one and one of the Steiner brothers actually found one that was sold, but rarely used by a DOT in the south - I contacted the dealer that had it and had it shipped here.
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You might be lucky enough to find one - this is 5' - I wish it was 6' or 7' but it does a nice job.

BK, sounds like you've had a couple good units. I'am a firm believer in routine maintenance and agree with your philosophy of oil, filters, grease, and radiator screen clean after every use. I'am so ocd that I'am embarrassed to say but am in the process of waxing and detailing the tractor and attachments right now. Got about 2 more days before time to mow again. Where did you come up with the sickle bar mower? I have been searching for one to mow pond banks with. All I find is one that connects to a bucket and is 38" long. Gotta be to close to the water with that one for me.
 
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My neighbor now has the 45000P also - after he turned over his New Holland SCUT - His wife told him he was getting a Ventrac.
 

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