Outside Water Spigot - Fail

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jlgurr

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Here are two images of an outside water faucet at our house. The house was built in 1978 and I will venture a guess these are original install. This one in particular has given up the ghost today, the internal threads are stripped and it won't turn off completely.

The issue I have is the pipe it is connected to it not visible inside the house. The valve connects within the wall and I am hoping it's threaded. But even if it is, there is a good chance it's not going to come out without some persuasion. Has anyone ever seen one of these? And how do you suggest I go about removing it? If push comes to shove I can cut a hole in the sheetrock was just hoping it wouldn't come to that.

The house has copper pipe water lines.

Thanks,
Jeff

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   / Outside Water Spigot - Fail #2  
Screw a hose one it and let let it drip somewhere useful. :laughing:
 
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Here are two images of an outside water faucet at our house. The house was built in 1978 and I will venture a guess these are original install. This one in particular has given up the ghost today, the internal threads are stripped and it won't turn off completely.

The issue I have is the pipe it is connected to it not visible inside the house. The valve connects within the wall and I am hoping it's threaded. But even if it is, there is a good chance it's not going to come out without some persuasion. Has anyone ever seen one of these? And how do you suggest I go about removing it? If push comes to shove I can cut a hole in the sheetrock was just hoping it wouldn't come to that.

The house has copper pipe water lines.

Thanks,
Jeff

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Screw another shutoff valve on it. When you want to use it, remove valve and attach hose.
 
   / Outside Water Spigot - Fail #4  
Is there a packing under the handle that you can adjust or put a wrench on?

If it is copper inside the house, cut it off and pull out. If galv, there may be a threaded end right inside the wall. If not go back as far as you have to, put in a valve and a union.

I would be concerned when turning it outside, it is not turnng in the basement and filling the basement with water. This may take a wrench outside, and inside, if galv. Hopefully it is copper, easier to deal with.
 
   / Outside Water Spigot - Fail #5  
Put in a frostless hose bib.
 
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Screw a hose one it and let let it drip somewhere useful. :laughing:

Good one Jim :D

The "drip" is fast enough that my well would be drained within an hour. Since the threads are stripped internally it's not able to be tightened. You've probably felt this type of thread failure before. Just before it gets tight you can feel it slip past the thread and you have start all over again. bummer
 
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Is there a packing under the handle that you can adjust or put a wrench on?

If it is copper inside the house, cut it off and pull out. If galv, there may be a threaded end right inside the wall. If not go back as far as you have to, put in a valve and a union.

I would be concerned when turning it outside, it is not turnng in the basement and filling the basement with water. This may take a wrench outside, and inside, if galv. Hopefully it is copper, easier to deal with.

Replaced the packing a few years ago and it was only be chance that a rural old time hardware store had the part. He told me I'd ought to consider replacing it soon. I procrastinated too long.

The pipe it's connected to is very likely copper but inside a wall, I can't get a visual on the pipe. I have easy access to an upstream valve to cut off water supply during the repair. Was hoping to get confirmation this is a threaded connection.
 
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Put in a frostless hose bib.

For sure. This one is frostless too and it's never frozen on us. But then again we don't get cold for long periods of time. Still, cheap insurance.
 
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PLus they are long enough to stick through the wall.
 
   / Outside Water Spigot - Fail #10  
Here are two images of an outside water faucet at our house. The house was built in 1978 and I will venture a guess these are original install. This one in particular has given up the ghost today, the internal threads are stripped and it won't turn off completely.

The issue I have is the pipe it is connected to it not visible inside the house. The valve connects within the wall and I am hoping it's threaded. But even if it is, there is a good chance it's not going to come out without some persuasion. Has anyone ever seen one of these? And how do you suggest I go about removing it? If push comes to shove I can cut a hole in the sheetrock was just hoping it wouldn't come to that.

The house has copper pipe water lines.

Thanks,
Jeff

Have you considered removing and repairing the valve stem rather than replacing the entire valve? Remove the stem, take it to a plumbing store to get the proper repair parts.
 

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