Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included

[TomSeller]

If KUB would just move to a 2 pedal system instead of that treadle pedal, they would have more sales. I certainly would have bought the 2601 TODAY and
had it in my garage right now if not for that horribly non ergonomic treadle pedal.

Many, including myself, prefer the Kubota system so I doubt it impacts Kubota's sales even 1 percent. Having said that, I never have understood why Kubota and every other manufacturer does not offer a pedal configruation option. If can't be that hard to engineer the mechanical setup.

Congrats on the JD, a very good tractor.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

Many, including myself, prefer the Kubota system so I doubt it impacts Kubota's sales even 1 percent. Having said that, I never have understood why Kubota and every other manufacturer does not offer a peddle configruation option. If can't be that hard to engineer the mechanical setup.

Congrats on the JD, a very good tractor.

I agree. If Kubota thought the treadle pedal was hurting their sales, they'd change it. I know some people have strong opinions on treadle vs. dual pedals, but I suspect most people are like me - they really don't care one way or the other. My Kioti has dual pedals, while both of my Kubotas have the treadle. It makes no difference to me. But I don't have any lingering injuries that affect my right leg, and I do realize that some people do.

 

[s219]

The kubota is out for me and I'm finalizing the details of the deal on a JD2025R. The treadle pedal is a deal breaker for me. The lift and curl function is nice
but certainly not so important that i buy the KUB just for that. The JD does dump and curl but not lift and curl. That seems exactly backwards from what it should be
but then again , what do i know about tractors let alone loaders. Plain truth is i will not live with that treadle pedal no matter what feature the tractor has.
If KUB would just move to a 2 pedal system instead of that treadle pedal, they would have more sales. I certainly would have bought the 2601 TODAY and
had it in my garage right now if not for that horribly non ergonomic treadle pedal.

You may have personal/medical issues that makes this important to you, but for most people it's a non-issue and many prefer the single treadle. I have owned/operated both types of HST treadle arrangements, and no big deal either way. In fact I have a Kubota and Deere now and have both arrangements, no complaints with either. I might give a slight edge to the double pedals for more foot room on the platform, and a slight edge to the single treadle for needing less foot motion (foot can stay in one place). It's really a wash to me and I don't consider either one to be non-ergonomic in the least.

 

[ultrarunner]

Congratulations on going Green...

I'm sure you will wonder why you waited so long.

Local Dealer support/service sells a lot of equipment.

Don't forget pictures.

 

[MHarryE]

Have both Deere and Kubota hydros and prefer the Kubotas but can understand that is personal - if you tried it and don't like it, definitely go with the one that works for you.

Having several tractors I switch between, I might have a problem with LH brakes because our 3 primary Ag tractors, and the 7 older ones I don't have listed on my profile, all need turning brakes much more than my L5740 on which I can never remember using the brakes except as a parking brake. I'm so used to hydrostatic braking - my first assignment after college was helping design a hydrostatic transmission installation on a self-propelled combine - back in the 60's. It became state of the art and obsoleted our variable belt drive and so I've been a hydro person ever since. Actually I prefer a combines hydro lever to either type of foot control but I realize that is tough with a loader to operate although skid steers do quite well.

As for dealers bashing a competitor being the way a person learns about competitor's problems, I feel the opposite. When I purchased our M135GX, my other choice was a John Deere as my cousin with whom I had just partnered with prefers Deere. The Deere guy could not say one good thing about his tractor, only bashed Kubota. Prices were equivalent although the Kubota had more power, but the dealer's attitude swayed me. The Kubota dealer is also a New Holland dealer and pointed out the advantages of each, then suggested the Kubota as a better value for my purpose. It was a wise selection.

 

[bevis28]

You may have personal/medical issues that makes this important to you, but for most people it's a non-issue and many prefer the single treadle. I have owned/operated both types of HST treadle arrangements, and no big deal either way. In fact I have a Kubota and Deere now and have both arrangements, no complaints with either. I might give a slight edge to the double pedals for more foot room on the platform, and a slight edge to the single treadle for needing less foot motion (foot can stay in one place). It's really a wash to me and I don't consider either one to be non-ergonomic in the least.

You can operate the treadle without moving your foot off of it to go to rev ? I was instructed by the dealer like this - When you go from fwd to rev, take your foot off the fwd part of the pedal,
put the ball of your foot on the deck by the middle of the of the pedal, rock your foot backwards and use your heel to depress the rev part of the pedal. When loading and moving material, thats a lot of extra work for the leg and foot for a guy with physical problems on that side of the body. If i had to guess, the length
of the pedal from fwd to rev pads on the pedal is about 14 to 16 inches. I have size 10 feet . There is no way i would be able to operate that pedal without removing my foot
and repositioning so i could push down and back with my heel for reverse. If theres a way to operate that pedal differently, he lost the sale yesterday because of it.

The only snag we have on the deere deal is the availability of a 53 or 61 inch bucket. It has a 49" bucket on it and the rear tires on the 2025r are wider than that. I want the 53 or 61
bucket or i won't buy it. Hopefully i will get a call from him today telling me he can get the 53 or 61. He does not stock either. I don't want to be buying a bucket down the road.
I think the 53 is probably the best choice as the rear width of the 2025r is 51. What i know is i don't want the 49" that he stocks for the H130 loader.

 

[murphy1244]

I have to disagree. Who else would know what the faults are, if not the competition? It is part of the meaning of the word "competition". Whenever I buy something, I always make it a point to ask the dealer "Why should I buy your brand instead of X brand?" When you ask that question, the sales person is much less squeamish about telling you what he or she feels is better about their product. And of course, you want to immediately go on the Internet or look to other sources to verify what you have been told. Works great for me!

I would sooner hear why one brand is better than the other than the faults of the other brand. Anyone can find fault but a few can find the virtues.

 

[bevis28]

I would sooner hear why one brand is better than the other than the faults of the other brand. Anyone can find fault but a few can find the virtues.

Agreed

 

[bevis28]

You may have personal/medical issues that makes this important to you, but for most people it's a non-issue and many prefer the single treadle. I have owned/operated both types of HST treadle arrangements, and no big deal either way. In fact I have a Kubota and Deere now and have both arrangements, no complaints with either. I might give a slight edge to the double pedals for more foot room on the platform, and a slight edge to the single treadle for needing less foot motion (foot can stay in one place). It's really a wash to me and I don't consider either one to be non-ergonomic in the least.

I have not paid for the JD yet. Im still VERY interested in the trick to working that treadle pedal without all the back and forth foot movement without having Bigfoot size feet.
Please elaborate. If theres a trick that i don't know about, i can go back and drive the KUB today while applying the new technique.

 

[JerryK]

It's a blond, brunette, redhead debate about the treadle and having the brake pedals on the same side as that device. The Orange folks will passionately defend their decision to their last breath about it until such time that all the Orange tractors come with two pedals with the brakes on the opposite side. Even knowing deep down inside that they are wrong... [ ]