How to rid Coyote's

[WoodChuckDad]

I've read thru every comment here to see if anyone said what I have been thinking. I'm hesitant because everyone seems to have soft skin these days.
I see people say you can't hope to control their numbers. Some say you can't get rid f of them. Horsecrap. You can...but it won't be pretty...and it will probably be illegal. In Virginia, they have made their way back into the state in the last 15 years. 30 years ago, nobody saw a coyote. They had been eradicated from the state. When farmers, and settlers killed them of, most of the farmers probably didn't have an electric fence.....so they didn't have the same options we have now. it was a different time and they were harder than we are. This country wasn't founded by vegetarians. You had to get bloody just to put a meal on the table. Yotes were slaughtered. They were poisoned, shot, trapped, and killed any way you can think of. One of the most effective ways to kill them as poisoning a carcass. Another way that was extremely effective was chunks of meat on large hooks hung from tree branches. It is a hideous way for an animal to die. And it is indiscriminate. Dogs, large cats, etc, But it works. landowners and farmer took drastic steps to address something they considered a threat. People spent much more time on the land back then, so they would also find the dens....and smoke them out, and have snares, and other traps set up to kill them...as well as shoot the with shotguns. not sporting. Im only repeating what I have been told by older folks who lived in a time that was a bit harder than now.

 

[westcliffe01]

The reason they cannot be eradicated now is the fact that your own land is very likely to be surrounded by leased land that no-one lives on and owners will not give you permission to go onto it for the sake of identifying coyote dens. This seems to be very common in SE MI. Furthermore, farmers who grow crops are all for predators to keep the deer population down, and coyotes don't do any damage to corn or wheat. So there is a conflict of interest.

If you happen to raise vulnerable livestock and can't afford $20-30k to tear out old fence rows and put in modern - no climb fence that is buried and has a maintainable electric perimeter, it is just a fact of life that coyotes are going to continue to do damage every year. The sheep farm I was involved with were losing up to 100% of newborn lambs (100 count breed herd, between 1-2 lambs per ewe per year) and up to 25 of the ewes per year. So they were going bankrupt basically, of course a family cant live from a herd of 100 sheep, so the adults have full time or part time jobs to make ends meet. But by putting in 2 hours every Sat and Sun morning before dawn and a few nights in summer night hunting, those losses have dropped to 4-6 sheep lost per year total.

Summer is always a crapshoot, if a pack decides to do the daytime pup training, having figured out that no-one is home and the guard dog is sleeping, those figures can rise dramatically and taking time off work to observe during summer time heat, can be a tough call. But it is the only way to stop the daytime raids.

 

[k0ua]

There is no doubt in my mind that they can be eradicated by hunting them. They were eradicated before and they could be again. But in those days everyone eradicated them. Even myself as a child managed to collect the $10 bounty. But now they are back more numerous than before. But you don't have hundreds of people hunting them. You don't have the majority of landowners wanting rid of them. The bounty system is gone. Every weekend folks turned out with dogs, CB radios in their pickup trucks and guns and hunted coyotes where I lived. I haven't seen that in many decades.

 

[two_bit_score]

There is no doubt in my mind that they can be eradicated by hunting them. They were eradicated before and they could be again. But in those days everyone eradicated them. Even myself as a child managed to collect the $10 bounty. But now they are back more numerous than before. But you don't have hundreds of people hunting them. You don't have the majority of landowners wanting rid of them. The bounty system is gone. Every weekend folks turned out with dogs, CB radios in their pickup trucks and guns and hunted coyotes where I lived. I haven't seen that in many decades.

Well, yeah, that and it's just not popular and 'social' to look forward to going to the 'coyote camp' and then bragging about the B&C score of your 'yote kill. And who really wants to have 6 mounted coyote heads lining the wall of the den? Or who is going to be impressed with your 'dried 'yote sausage' every year?

 

[k0ua]

Man, that 'yote sausage does NOT sound good to me!:yuck:

 

[two_bit_score]

Man, that 'yote sausage does NOT sound good to me!:yuck:

Really? Well, have you tried it? :roll eyes:



TBS

 

[arpt209]

Around here coyotes are shot more from necessity than fun or sport. Pets & livestock of all sorts are always on their menu. Young of the year deer, antelope, elk which are considered people food are on the menu as well. There are other critters like gophers that are killed as well. I guess badgers get it too. Not enough wolves or lions to be a problem here. Not yet anyway.

Years ago I had lion hounds. I was out walking a track in the snow to decide if I'd put dogs on it. I saw coyote tracks coming in from the side. I then saw a swirl in the snow where it looked like the lion spun on the coyote. Coyote ran a loop & a couple of hundred yards later the swirl again. This occurred in the snow several times. The last swirl was more disturbed. No coyote tracks lead away. I kept following the lion into some trees & found a coyote hide with all 4 feet & the head still in it. Head had 2 very distinct fang marks right in the top of the skull. Always wish I'd had it tanned & kept the feet & skull. Dogs had a hard time staying on the track since it smelled so strong of coyote. Turned out the lion was a female so I leashed the dogs & let her go.

Coyotes taste like they smell. Same with badgers, fox, porcupines, muskrats, beaver. Maybe it was the cook's fault. Lions good. Tastes like cat not chicken. Same as bobcat.

 

[k0ua]

Really? Well, have you tried it? :roll eyes:



TBS

Nope, and ya can't make me

 

[Snowback]

Around here coyotes are shot more from necessity than fun or sport. Pets & livestock of all sorts are always on their menu. Young of the year deer, antelope, elk which are considered people food are on the menu as well. There are other critters like gophers that are killed as well. I guess badgers get it too. Not enough wolves or lions to be a problem here. Not yet anyway.

Years ago I had lion hounds. I was out walking a track in the snow to decide if I'd put dogs on it. I saw coyote tracks coming in from the side. I then saw a swirl in the snow where it looked like the lion spun on the coyote. Coyote ran a loop & a couple of hundred yards later the swirl again. This occurred in the snow several times. The last swirl was more disturbed. No coyote tracks lead away. I kept following the lion into some trees & found a coyote hide with all 4 feet & the head still in it. Head had 2 very distinct fang marks right in the top of the skull. Always wish I'd had it tanned & kept the feet & skull. Dogs had a hard time staying on the track since it smelled so strong of coyote. Turned out the lion was a female so I leashed the dogs & let her go.

Coyotes taste like they smell. Same with badgers, fox, porcupines, muskrats, beaver. Maybe it was the cook's fault. Lions good. Tastes like cat not chicken. Same as bobcat.

I had to read that twice and then think about it... My mind was showing me images of a giant, largely maned, African lion running wild in the snow! (Then it finally dawned on me that you were after a Cougar - AKA "Mountain" Lion!!!!) LOL! Sorry, I've been down south too long. Are your dogs Ridge backs or another type of hound? Thanks for making me laugh at myself. :laughing:

Here is the nice cat my 14 YO nephew took a few years back. My BIL was very proud!

 

[EddieWalker]

Here is the nice cat my 14 YO nephew took a few years back. My BIL was very proud!

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Very Nice!!!

I've only seen one mt lion in my life and that was while backpacking near Yosemite. My neighbor here in Tyler TX has his own runway and he shot one a few years ago while he was getting his plane ready for a flight. It was laying in a wood pile at the side of his runway watching him.