Tractor lurches and levers flail around - See VIDEO -

   / Tractor lurches and levers flail around - See VIDEO - #11  
I do not like the lurching and just think that you would let it run without loading it. Everything would be smooth and easier on the machine until you get rid of the air. As much as that thing is lurching I would not want to let it beat itself up.
 
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#12  
Makes sense, thanks again for the help.
 
   / Tractor lurches and levers flail around - See VIDEO - #13  
Same as Creamer - no weight or any real resistance on the machine so it is easier on it. I personally wouldn't go under the machine running but thats just me.
 
   / Tractor lurches and levers flail around - See VIDEO - #14  
Same as Creamer - no weight or any real resistance on the machine so it is easier on it. I personally wouldn't go under the machine running but thats just me.

oh come on! I want to see the video when the jack fails!
 
   / Tractor lurches and levers flail around - See VIDEO - #15  
You may have a broken transmission or frame. Perhaps trans/axle to frame mounts. Where do those levers attach? I can't see them moving unless whatever they are attached to is moving. I know nothing about your mower but simple deduction may find the problem.
 
   / Tractor lurches and levers flail around - See VIDEO - #16  
@ Creamer & Code54 - Thank you both, I'll try that first before I get under and open a line.

Just curious as to why the drive wheels should be off the ground?

So it doesn't move when you are under it. LOL.
 
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You may have a broken transmission or frame. Perhaps trans/axle to frame mounts. Where do those levers attach? I can't see them moving unless whatever they are attached to is moving. I know nothing about your mower but simple deduction may find the problem.

I had a good look around, over, and under, Didn't see anything cracked or broken. The levers are attached directly via linkage to the gear case.
 
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Well, I got the front and rear wheels off the ground and ran it at varying wheel speeds forward and reverse for about 20 mins. I checked the fluid level before and after, it remained the same, full, clean and clear. Then I ran it mowing some of my lawn and overgrown pasture for an additional 15 minutes. It works much better than it did previously, less lurching, and lever flailing, a lot more grinding noise. When on level ground with little load in a straight line it works pretty much normally. Once you turn or place additional load on it, it makes a grinding noise, like your trying to shift a manual transmission vehicle into gear with a clutch that doesn't fully disengage, and then the levers jump around a bit. Also it doesn't respond to putting it in to "high", only "low" works. And the position where "low" is engaged is where it says it would be in "neutral". And the 2wd/4wd only seems to work in 4wd. Weird, I don't understand how all of these things could be related. Or maybe they aren't and one problem just caused some other problems?

Also - I haven't mentioned before. The mower has two pedals side by side, one for forward, one for reverse. And I swear (unless I'm just loosing it), that before the problems started the pedal height was the same, or close to the same. Now the reverse pedal height is much lower, and, correspondingly it doesn't seem like it has as much reverse speed.

So yes letting it self bleed (wheels off ground) made a difference. I haven't tried "cracking a line", as Cord suggested, but that would take either another person to operate it, or disabling the safety controls so it could be operated with no one in the seat. And I wouldn't get under the thing with the wheels turning anyway. More bleeding still needed? What about the other problems? I can't imagine they could be related to air in the system?

Thanks for all the help so far,

Dave
 
   / Tractor lurches and levers flail around - See VIDEO - #19  
First of all I am glad the jerkiness and lurching got worked out - now you can find the other problems.

I am not sure of the drivetrain configuration but it certainly sounds like you have a gearbox for high and low and probably a couple of differentials - one each for the front and rear. Could the "positions" error be due to linkages being misadjusted? that is to say "low" being where "neutral" should be - is that just because the linkage is too long or short giving you the wrong indication, i.e. can you "feel" three different positions if you move the shifter by itself (disconnected from the linkage)?

The gears grinding does not sound good - can you locate which gearbox or differential they seem to be coming from?

What do you mean by "the 2wd/4wd only seems to work in 4wd"? The mower only goes when it is in 4wd. Are your front wheels driving at all?
 
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The jerkiness and lurching are still there, just less so. In certain situations such as steady speed, and little load in a straight line there is none.

The shifting was always imprecise, but used to line up better with each position indicator. The linkages are non adjustable, with no excess "slop" in them. I haven't disconnected the linkage's and tried shifting directly at the case.

The gear grinding noise seems to coming from below as I would expect, but it would require someone driving with me trying to get my head under the mower to replicate and try to pinpoint the noise, I don't think it made it at all when it was off the ground.

All 4 wheels turn when off the ground, couldn't seem to engage just 2wd.
 

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