JD square baler knotters

[HumphreyUK]

I am working on an old JD 219 baler. The knots would not tie, so I started looking for problems. The first think I noticed was the slackness on the stripper arm shaft. I took out the split pin on top and the two washers and pulled the shaft out. The first thing I noticed is that there is a hardened sleeve that fits closely on the 5/6" shaft. The fit of the sleeve on the knotter casting was very loose indeed with 0.008" wear.
I have a parts book that does not show a sleeve at all.
I am thinking of drilling a grease hole in the sleeve and Loctite-ing it to the housing. This will allow the shaft to run in the sleeve.
Has anyone done this? Are oversize sleeves available in case this does not work?
Humphrey

 

[MORRISONSTEEL]

Sounds like the knotter has been replaced. When replaced they went to a later version that had bushings for that arm, otherwise I think that was the only difference. Look at parts catalog for any of the later generation balers and you will see the bushings.

 

[beenthere]

Pardon for butting in, but looking at jdparts they show a new and old knotter.. pulled off a pic attached but notice all parts not numbered..
Maybe it helps you identify the parts you have for discussion.

Morrisonsteel
Which model baler might the later generation be that would have the bushings?

 

[HumphreyUK]

My parts book shows the bushing as part of the shaft but although the shaft is numbered, the bush is not.
Anyway, I did what I said and will take out for testing on the hay.
I added a 1/32" washer to take up the slack on the left unit and bent the arm to get a close fit to the knotter.
I think there was so much wear that the stripper slid over the forming knot.

 

[MORRISONSTEEL]

Pardon for butting in, but looking at jdparts they show a new and old knotter.. pulled off a pic attached but notice all parts not numbered..
Maybe it helps you identify the parts you have for discussion.

Morrisonsteel
Which model baler might the later generation be that would have the bushings?

No worries, I was under the impression that the late generation knotters from say a 346 "could" be installed on these earlier balers. I thought the even subbed over but never did actually look them up, it now appears that I am mistaken. It looks like one method to tell may be by if there is 1 or 2 bushings for the arm. For the 2 bushing version on late balers id is .633. May be someone more familiar with this baler will chime in.

 

[HumphreyUK]

Anyone got a guide that they could post? My book is in French and my language is not up to it.

 

[Tx Jim]

Anyone got a guide that they could post? My book is in French and my language is not up to it.

You can view a later model sq baler operators manual on JDparts.com. which should contain tying trouble shooting. What language do you need? Here's the number for a 348(export) sq baler in English OMFH310755