Not trying to start a flame war. Kubota vs John Deere CUTS

[mapper]

My two cents on the treadle vs two pedal HST conversation, my Massey has a treadle and my JD X324 lawn tractor has two pedals. It has not been much of an issue, there is enough of a difference in how it feels under your foot that it is not confusing to switch from one to the other. When I was shopping for them I was looking for build quality, features and price. Control layout was important but only to the point that it was logical and within easy reach from the seat.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

One thing to consider has already been touched on. Kubota, for the most part, is the only scut that is what it says it is, a Kubota. The others are a conglomeration of sourced parts, varying by different degrees. It is one of my main reasons for sticking with them for 30 plus years, and my trust in what I am buying.

 

[murphy1244]

One thing to consider has already been touched on. Kubota, for the most part, is the only scut that is what it says it is, a Kubota. The others are a conglomeration of sourced parts, varying by different degrees. It is one of my main reasons for sticking with them for 30 plus years, and my trust in what I am buying.

Daedong makes their own too, Just call them Kioti for the US market.

 

[DK35vince]

I've only driven a Bobcat(Kioti) and a John Deere of similar size and I can tell you the JD was a much nicer machine. The Bobcat(Kioti) just feel really cheap compared to the JD which felt more sturdy and well built on thing like the transmission shifter. Fit and finish were also noticeably better as was the performance.

Here's another opinion.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/360722-kioti-nx6010-vs-john-deere.html

 

[Deere Dude]

Not trying to start a fire, but JD doesn't make CUT's. They just buy from other manufactures and paint them green. There are no JD CUT's. HS

https://www.deere.com/common/docs/our_company/about_us/worldwide_locations/uslocations.pdf

It seems they make CUTs in Georgia. I toured a CUT plant 10+ years ago which I remember being in Augusta. Another one is in Moline or Dubuque someplace.

If they do have aluminum rear housings, aren't they rated for loaded tires, Ballast Box and Weights? They sure are.

Plastic has held up great for me for 30 years except for a few scratches now and then. Bounced a 10# rock off the FEL onto the hood (not on purpose) and didn't leave a mark. At least it doesn't rattle like a garbage can.

Ergonomics are important if both of you are going to drive the thing. Run one around the lot and see what is better for you. I prefer the two petal on the right side and brakes on the left side. It seems many like one treadle. I like the idea of being able to move the back my foot around while driving while still keeping the toe on the gas.
Check placement of all the controls. I know a person can get used to anything, but JDs put things where they have a natural feel for the operator.

 

[teg]

...I like the idea of being able to move the back my foot around while driving while still keeping the toe on the gas...

Not sure what you mean, I have the kubota treadle and never have my heal on the reverse part... unless I'm going backwards. I just use my toe section to give it "gas" (that is, if I'm not using the cruise control handle). :2cents:

 

[houstonscott]

https://www.deere.com/common/docs/our_company/about_us/worldwide_locations/uslocations.pdf It seems they make CUTs in Georgia. I toured a CUT plant 10+ years ago which I remember being in Augusta. Another one is in Moline or Dubuque someplace. If they do have aluminum rear housings, aren't they rated for loaded tires, Ballast Box and Weights? They sure are. Plastic has held up great for me for 30 years except for a few scratches now and then. Bounced a 10# rock off the FEL onto the hood (not on purpose) and didn't leave a mark. At least it doesn't rattle like a garbage can. Ergonomics are important if both of you are going to drive the thing. Run one around the lot and see what is better for you. I prefer the two petal on the right side and brakes on the left side. It seems many like one treadle. I like the idea of being able to move the back my foot around while driving while still keeping the toe on the gas. Check placement of all the controls. I know a person can get used to anything, but JDs put things where they have a natural feel for the operator.

You are just witnessing assembly. Even many utility tractors for JD are made in India. To tell the truth I don't think JD makes a Diesel engine with less than about 200hp. Most of the cuts have been yanmar powered or yanmar tractors straight up. Check out the Italian JD's 76f 85f, I rather like them, but just goldani with green paint. Oh, by the way Yanmar diesels are considered world class, excellent choice for JD, doesn't get any better. I post about six years ago that Kubota is Deming managed company. Their goal then is to go after JD. With constant improvement over last six years they are getting closer. None of these running around six years ago.... HS

 

[white cloud]

Well I made it to the Kubota dealer today. It is a large dealer south of where I live but near the forest land we bought. Evidently they work with people in the forest management business quite a bit so the salesman pretty much knew where I was headed and what I might need to know. I got to mess around with an "L" series in their yard a bit. It was very easy to manage and the treadle seemed to work fine once I got the hang of it. I drove the L2501HST. The dealer told me the PTO power and loader specs were closest to the John Deere 3032e. I have to admit this was a nice tractor and I felt comfortable with it very quickly. For some reason the loader seemed easier to manipulate also. I have no idea why. The package deal was substantially less than the John Deere. I am going to discuss this with the wife but tractor, nice bush hog, loader with bucket, 20 ft 7 ton equipment trailer for right at $20,000 out the door seems pretty hard to beat.

 

[Wagtail]

Not trying to start a fire, but JD doesn't make CUT's. They just buy from other manufactures and paint them green. There are no JD CUT's. HS

Well you have. My 4105 plainly says it was built in the US... and yes, it's got an Yanmar donk but so what :confused3:, it more than does the job without any mechanical problems whatsoever. And the filters are readily available from my local auto parts store. No manufacturer in the world makes every part for whatever they make.

My tractor has been a solid performer and has done it with zero problems... because I bought the right type of tractor for my needs (and a bit more).

Others have already mentioned that the after sales support of your local dealership should be a deciding factor in whatever colour tractor you decide to go with. My "local" JD dealership sold me the right tractor for my needs (not the ones on the lot) and have all the time in the world for me from their Service/Parts department, even though their major 'bread & butter' is from big Ag tractors.

 

[ultrarunner]

Sounds like a nice package... will you need a box blade or forks for anything?

The one thing I talked my brother into getting was the quick attach loader bucket... he really didn't think he needed it but now uses forks quite a bit.

Only worth it if you think you may need to change between the loader and something like forks often...

I have never taken the loader bucket off of my little Kubota.

The L seems to be about the right size for many homesteads... the larger tires and higher ground clearance make it more versatile in the woods.