Not trying to start a flame war. Kubota vs John Deere CUTS

[Aquamoose]

I forgot to add, if you plan to use a variety of QA's, it pays to have a bobcat style QA which is the defacto standard.

 

[houstonscott]

Well you have. My 4105 plainly says it was built in the US... and yes, it's got an Yanmar donk but so what :confused3:, it more than does the job without any mechanical problems whatsoever. And the filters are readily available from my local auto parts store. No manufacturer in the world makes every part for whatever they make. My tractor has been a solid performer and has done it with zero problems... because I bought the right type of tractor for my needs (and a bit more). Others have already mentioned that the after sales support of your local dealership should be a deciding factor in whatever colour tractor you decide to go with. My "local" JD dealership sold me the right tractor for my needs (not the ones on the lot) and have all the time in the world for me from their Service/Parts department, even though their major 'bread & butter' is from big Ag tractors.

I'm not bashing JD, just the facts... Those are nice machines. If you bought a Ford truck, and it came with a Toyota engine, how would you call that? Just how tractors are made by JD. 76f is a beautiful tractor. HS.

 

[paulfun9]

Well I made it to the Kubota dealer today. It is a large dealer south of where I live but near the forest land we bought. Evidently they work with people in the forest management business quite a bit so the salesman pretty much knew where I was headed and what I might need to know. I got to mess around with an "L" series in their yard a bit. It was very easy to manage and the treadle seemed to work fine once I got the hang of it. I drove the L2501HST. The dealer told me the PTO power and loader specs were closest to the John Deere 3032e. I have to admit this was a nice tractor and I felt comfortable with it very quickly. For some reason the loader seemed easier to manipulate also. I have no idea why. The package deal was substantially less than the John Deere. I am going to discuss this with the wife but tractor, nice bush hog, loader with bucket, 20 ft 7 ton equipment trailer for right at $20,000 out the door seems pretty hard to beat.

FInding yourself getting comfortable with the machine quickly is definitely a good sign that its a good fit for you. I must agree with others who say to get the SSQA loader attachment now. Using a grapple or a set of pallet forks and having to switch back and forth a few times a day is a painless operation with it. Today alone I switched between the bucket to the grapple then put the forks on to move an old coal stove then back to the bucket again without the quick attach its a pain but with it its just a 2 min switch and well worth the investment.
By the way SSQA is just one more reason I would in most cases take an other brand over a JD. JD insists on using tier own quick attach and it is not common with other manufacture. This limits the ability to buy used attachments and from my experience adds cost to new ones and also makes the possible market for the sale of an attachment you no longer need smaller

 

[Deere Dude]

Not sure what you mean, I have the kubota treadle and never have my heal on the reverse part... unless I'm going backwards. I just use my toe section to give it "gas" (that is, if I'm not using the cruise control handle). :2cents:

I never drove one with a treadle. I understood wrongly then that you push with the front of your foot to go forward and the rear of your foot to slow down or go backwards. I thought the whole foot would be on the treadle.

 

[Deere Dude]

You are just witnessing assembly. Even many utility tractors for JD are made in India. To tell the truth I don't think JD makes a Diesel engine with less than about 200hp. Most of the cuts have been yanmar powered or yanmar tractors straight up. Check out the Italian JD's 76f 85f, I rather like them, but just goldani with green paint. Oh, by the way Yanmar diesels are considered world class, excellent choice for JD, doesn't get any better. I post about six years ago that Kubota is Deming managed company. Their goal then is to go after JD. With constant improvement over last six years they are getting closer. None of these running around six years ago.... HS

It was a manufacturing assembly with motors and transmissions and axles and seats etc. were made someplace else more than likely.

I would be very surprised if Kubota and any other tractor company wasn't operating the same way. Yes many are made in India and who knows where else.

I think JD makes 4 cyl. engines for the 4X20 series or at least that is what the dealer told me.

I fired up a 4X00 series and they are nice but listening to the 3X00 series I was sold partly because of the Yanmar engines and how nice they are and how they sound. Maybe JDs are better, but who knows.

 

[MrFoPow]

It was a manufacturing assembly with motors and transmissions and axles and seats etc. were made someplace else more than likely.

I would be very surprised if Kubota and any other tractor company wasn't operating the same way. Yes many are made in India and who knows where else.

Kubota openly promotes the fact they make their own motors all over their YouTube channel.

 

[white cloud]

Sounds like a nice package... will you need a box blade or forks for anything?

The one thing I talked my brother into getting was the quick attach loader bucket... he really didn't think he needed it but now uses forks quite a bit.

Only worth it if you think you may need to change between the loader and something like forks often...

I have never taken the loader bucket off of my little Kubota.

The L seems to be about the right size for many homesteads... the larger tires and higher ground clearance make it more versatile in the woods.

Yes this has a quick detach bucket as I will need a grapple. Those are expensive! I will eventually need a box blade also. Gotta run this past the wife.

 

[Wagtail]

Gotta run this past the wife.

Tell her we said it was OK for you to get them. :thumbsup:

You need them and we've never lied to you before.

 

[Steve1300]

I have shown my wife how to change the FEL bucket for one of the other implements, but she is skeptical. I also showed her how to use the quick hitch, but only one of my old implements works without the top link adapter. So, I'll be changing them for her anyway. I do like the skid steer quick attach.
My treadle pedal is too large for my toe to be on one end and my heel on the other. I don't use my heel anyway. I put my toe under the forward end and lift. Been that way for years.

 

[tractorshopper]

White Cloud,

I'd make sure to get a box blade at time of purchase, especially for the loader work you have planned. Also, get the dealer to fill the rear wheels for you with fluid. With Box Blade on and rear wheels filled, you get the most work out of your loader. Without the extra weight on the back, you'll lift your rear end instead of very heavy loads.

The L series are great tractors. Had a L3800, predecessor of the L3901. Was a wonderful machine and very capable of a lot of work. I'd recommend a 6' medium to heavy duty box blade with it. Also, tooth bars are invaluable for our red clay. Can't say this enough. I dug my pond with my L3800.