New 2565 Major Problem!

[dickfoster]

Most automobile manufacturers now have automatic shut down if the oil level is too low. This feature has been on cars for some time. Makes you wonder why tractor manufacturers don't do the same. Perhaps some do? Seems to me that the expense is not that great. I would assume that that the number of engines seizing due to low oil is probably less than 1/10 of 1 percent. Perhaps that's why? I know that I have never had a low oil pressure light go off and if it did I would shut her down on the spot. My low priced generator has that shut down feature. Expense can't be the driver here.

I don't care what they do, there is no such thing as foolproof so forcing everyone to pay for it is kinda dumb too. Remember generators are built to operate unattended but tractors are not. Of course they'll let any idiot have a driver's license these days, even fools who text and drive or worse. Maybe that's why there is such a push for driverless cars on now.

 

[seaneastok]

Honestly? I mean blaming a manufacturer about filter placement ? Stick's and limb's are indeed a crafty sort and it's my opinion they were sent to see what they can destroy until rotted completely or burned at the stake (pun intended)..In forty plus years I have had them be quite forward in their intended harm. One came up from the bottom of the loader bracket, and tried to take me off the tractor like a skilled midevil jouster on horseback..Another snuck up quietly and took out the front grill ,radiator and fan...And yet another caused major damage to hydraulics and oil pan...Point being to the OP..You mentioned no shutdown,no flashing light etc..WHAT DID YOU WANT? RED oil light(RED...DANGER..Not flashing yellow..Check it when you want..That's why they call them Idiot light's) yet you fired it up and drove it the length of a football field? And it is a manufacturing filter placement problem? I sincerely hope your insurance will cover it,but on the other hand you posted your negligence on the internet so there is a "forever"record of it..Blaming the manufacturer would be like blaming Goodyear for putting their tire's on the road so they can pick up nail's..Hope the best for you...

 

[Snowback]

Sorry to hear about this freak accident. The title of the post seemed to indicate a machine induced problem, but I think this one was environmental in my opinion.

Similar things have happened to me in the past. I was able to thread the needle and place a sturdy small branch clear through the radiator on my Max 25 a couple years back. I was backing out of some brush and it just snuck past every cross member, frame rail and fan blade. (Well almost made it past the fan blade...) That horrendous noise is what caused me to stop, and by then I could see the mess and coolant starting to flow like a stuck pig. That was a $700 lesson in not backing out of saplings that you just drove over...

Also, last year I had a rogue strand of barbed wire flip under my front tire, jump up and lasso the fuel filter assembly and proceed to rip it plumb off the side of the machine. That one was weird and caused me to scramble for a twig to plug the fuel line. Quick trick into town for temporary auto parts store repair and then $50 in parts later for the permanent fix. Sounds like your problem might be more intense.

Is it possible that there is a safety override keeping it from turning over since the oil pressure trigger might have popped a code in the computer? That's probably wishful thinking.

Good luck with your repairs.

 

[kneedeep]

What are you guys driving over that would rip a spin on filter off the threads??
You bought a tractor, not a dozer
JMHO

 

[Snowback]

What are you guys driving over that would rip a spin on filter off the threads??
You bought a tractor, not a dozer
JMHO

You're right. Dozer would be quicker and easier. I have a recently logged and partially timber mulched tract that is not quite ready for smooth mowing maintenance. Lots of 2-3ft long shards of logs and many random limbs still laying around.

In my case at least I'm just trying to poor boy the rest of the work. Spent enough big bucks already and if I'm patient, I should be able to get most of the rest with the tractor. Just picked up an EA landscape rake that should help pull those medium sized pieces of wood shrapnel into burn piles...

 

[MsBehave]

I had the very same thing happen to my 5570. Unfortunately, the engine appears to be seized and the dealer insists the only "repair" is engine replacement at a cost of $26k. The oil filter is exposed from the bottom. The next tractor will have a skid plate installed before it ever goes in the field.

 

[mcfarmall]

engine replacement at a cost of $26k.

Wow that's a salty engine!! How much was the tractor when new??

 

[DavesTractor]

I had the very same thing happen to my 5570. Unfortunately, the engine appears to be seized and the dealer insists the only "repair" is engine replacement at a cost of $26k. The oil filter is exposed from the bottom. The next tractor will have a skid plate installed before it ever goes in the field.

I'm going to check into that engine price. I know that to buy a tractor piece by piece costs many times more than a total tractor, but $26k does not anywhere near pass the smell test.

I'd think a short block or long block should be available. But if not, it is not that hard to pull an engine apart and rebuild it. If it seized, it will be a pretty major rebuild but that is what tractor mechanics do!

As I mentioned on your other thread, check into insurance.

 

[DavesTractor]

I had the very same thing happen to my 5570. Unfortunately, the engine appears to be seized and the dealer insists the only "repair" is engine replacement at a cost of $26k. The oil filter is exposed from the bottom. The next tractor will have a skid plate installed before it ever goes in the field.

MSRP on a complete short block is $5244.60 plus freight. That is complete with oil pan, front gears and cover, of course crank, pistons, etc. You would have to swap the head over and all accessories, fuel system and so forth. Still a ton of money, but it is $21k less than what you were quoted.

We sell some orchard tractors to farmers that do a lot of shredding (hundreds of acres) of prunings, so they run over the stuff first as the flail shredder is on the 3-point in the back. Even on these $75k+ tractors, we need to install belly pans if the guy intends to shred. There are fuel and brake lines, some wires, filters, and other delicate bits under most farm and utility tractors. Construction type rigs seem a lot better protected underneath.

 

[burzynsr]

Was this your first tractor? As kneedeep stated earlier "it is a tractor not a dozer". Filter placement claim won't cut it for a warranty fix. You must pay complete attention to everything going on while operateing the machine. Even while doing that bad things still happen. When the oil light comes on that means to "shutdown immediatly" and "DO NOT RE-START UNTIL THE PROBLEM IS LOCATED AND RESOLVED", even if it turns out to be something as simple as a bad sensor. Good luck with the repairs and I hope it has an inexpensive outcome.