Oil & Fuel Diesel fuel additives are so inexpensive to use.

[IslandTractor]

We might be further ahead to divide the conversation into "Performance enhancing Diesel fuel additives" to avoid emotional out bursts over anti gelling and anti-microbial additives that are time and situation dependent.

One who benefits from the addition of an anti-gelling additive likely does not positively know if the fuel had been treated for winterization prior to their use. Like wise, the need for anti-microbials are for all practical records, a matter of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. In both cases, when you help on either situation, you need help!

As to the "performance enhancing" compounds.... ehh. ..... show me the data! ;-)

I agree and have tried to keep those anti gelling and biocides out of the argument. I understand why rswyan wants anti gelling in the truck he stakes his life on in wintertime and I know what algae can do to diesel fuel in boats in warm climates.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

You are entitled to believe what you want,you seem to be quite a travel bug,laffin.In the Jan/Feb months of the year I do believe they had winter additives in the fuel.My fingers are crossed,hope your good non gelling fuel fortunes continue.

Actually you would be accurate about that... at least compared to many folks.

I was in northern Mi. twice this summer, will be in southern Ohio in a week or so, and will be taking a little trip west and SW this winter... Probably be in northern Mi. at some time this winter too...

Don't worry, neither me, my family or farmer neighbors use any additives in our diesels and none of us have gelling problems, of course we all pay attention to what fuel we are using too... Try it, it really works... lol

SR

 

[Locoweed]

Additives are are not needed! Just put magnets around your fuel lines & all problems are solved & it gets better mileage too.

 

[daugen]

Additives are are not needed! Just put magnets around your fuel lines & all problems are solved & it gets better mileage too.

what did you say your name was?

one of the first words of Latin I learned was caveat emptor.

 

[coobie]

Actually you would be accurate about that... at least compared to many folks.

I was in northern Mi. twice this summer, will be in southern Ohio in a week or so, and will be taking a little trip west and SW this winter... Probably be in northern Mi. at some time this winter too...

Don't worry, neither me, my family or farmer neighbors use any additives in our diesels and none of us have gelling problems, of course we all pay attention to what fuel we are using too... Try it, it really works... lol

SR

Wow now thats some crazy Azz travel area.Let me see now in the past 6-8 months we have been to the UP of michigan twice,Ohio,Indiana,Wyoming,Utah,Nebraska,Kentucky,Minnesota,Colorado,Montana,N.Dakota.S.Dakota,Iowa,Wisconsin,Illinios and Arizona all using fuel additives.No worries here but some Funny chit ...Good luck to you,your family clan & your farmer neighbors on your future travels.May they be GELL FREE..laffin

 

[AxleHub]

I agree and have tried to keep those anti gelling and biocides out of the argument. I understand why rswyan wants anti gelling in the truck he stakes his life on in wintertime and I know what algae can do to diesel fuel in boats in warm climates.

Well now you've really got me confused Island. You claim youve kept crrtain categories out of the debate
But that is exactly the categories ive been tslkingbabout all along including my opening post andvevery one since. Remember when you said my friends issues couldn't be helped by additives ? And power service was the basis of my starting this thread.

In addition . . You are correct . . I trust 1st hand observation beccuse reliable users have no "customer affiliations" with the manufacturers to cloud the issue. And reliable users are more accurate than sales and marketing efforts from unknown people. Lastly . . Its not logical to use tractorbynet and yet not believe in 1st hand opinion of users. Island . . think of what you are saying. Until 2 posts. ago . . You weren't excluding anything . . All additives were voodoo . . Remember.

You have way way way too many posts to tell us 1st hand opinion isn't keenly important.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Wow now thats some crazy Azz travel area.Let me see now in the past 6-8 months we have been to the UP of michigan twice,Ohio,Indiana,Wyoming,Utah,Nebraska,Kentucky,Minnesota,Colorado,Montana,N.Dakota.S.Dakota,Iowa,Wisconsin,Illinios and Arizona all using fuel additives.No worries here but some Funny chit ...Good luck to you,your family clan & your farmer neighbors on your future travels.May they be GELL FREE..laffin

Well, looks like you are a travel bug too... I don't get out near as much as I use to... Made 13 trips over the ALCAN over the years, and I've been in every state, plus almost all of Canada, and of course, went to Mexico too, but these days I stay closer to home...

It's pretty hard to drive to Hawaii though! lol lol

SR

 

[FatTire]

When people write "Power Service", it is not clear if they are talking white bottle (winter), silver (summer) or biocide (green?) . When people say they never use any additive, they must live where it doesn't get very cold. Here, if you don't use a winter additive, sooner or later you'll be sorry. Most likely sooner. Last January I went to fill up at convenience store in South Fork, CO, early in the morning, about 8am. It was -18F, and the #1 diesel was gelled in the hose. This is the only place to get fuel for miles, so I moved to the other side of the pump, which had already been used, and added some PS to my tank. Is anyone saying they wouldn't use an additive in that situation?

 

[DieselBound]

I'd consider an additive if it was cold enough: I don't have that worry. For anything else it's not essential (manufacturers would be advising if they were needed). I'd focus more on good filtration (and ensuring you're getting good fuel).

 

[kloudbuster]

Why wouldn't manufacturers specify the need for a lubricity enhancing additive if their engineers felt that modern low sulfur fuel was inadequate? Why would a major manufacturer design and build a modern diesel that had lubricity requirements that were not provided in modern diesel fuel?

I think the onus is on those who believe additives are necessary, not on those who go along with manufacturers stated fuel requirements (I'm talking about lubricity additives not anti gelling additives).

What about those of us that own old diesel tractors? Does the new low sulfur fuel affect us?