FEL how long 'should' bucked remain up when parked?

[comancheflight]

I got too excited when the LED light bulb came on. Plus I have to type from my phone...thanks for the correction.

 

[4570Man]

Full to the brim. Still full but somehow the towel got wet

 

[k0ua]

Full to the brim. View attachment 491390 Still full but somehow the towel got wet View attachment 491391

It is a festivus miracle!.

 

[jabelding]

I have a couple of old cylinders and a 100ton press here at work if I get really bored towards the end of the day maybe I will make a video and explode one of them.

 

[ovrszd]

HOLY CRAP!!!!

I gotta make sure to revisit these lengthy discussions to protect my integrity!!!!

Four days ago CalG, in post #42 said "A rod cannot push into a confined cylinder".

Four days ago in post #48 I said "Sorry, that's just not true".

Now here we are four days later and we have a "Correct" and "Not Correct list of names!!!!

I avoid these discussions because the "technically advanced" split hairs in their effort to make their point and enforce their broad statements.

I make a comment based on a statement and am thrown to the "Not Correct" list.

So, my definition of a "confined cylinder" is a cylinder that has no leaks outside it's case, or to atmosphere if you want to look at it that way. With that definition it is "just not true" that the rod cannot move. I'll stick with that. If that means I stay on the "Not Correct" list then so be it.

 

[k0ua]

HOLY CRAP!!!!

I gotta make sure to revisit these lengthy discussions to protect my integrity!!!!

Four days ago CalG, in post #42 said "A rod cannot push into a confined cylinder".

Four days ago in post #48 I said "Sorry, that's just not true".

Now here we are four days later and we have a "Correct" and "Not Correct list of names!!!!

I avoid these discussions because the "technically advanced" split hairs in their effort to make their point and enforce their broad statements.

I make a comment based on a statement and am thrown to the "Not Correct" list.

So, my definition of a "confined cylinder" is a cylinder that has no leaks outside it's case, or to atmosphere if you want to look at it that way. With that definition it is "just not true" that the rod cannot move. I'll stick with that. If that means I stay on the "Not Correct" list then so be it.

The rod can move out of but it cannot move into the cylinder space.

 

[ovrszd]

The rod can move out of but it cannot move into the cylinder space.

Here we are splitting hairs again. Of course it can. Happens all the time. Many posters on this thread have declared it happened.

 

[LD1]

Here we are splitting hairs again. Of course it can. Happens all the time. Many posters on this thread have declared it happened.

Many different ways, and analogies, and experiments that can be used to show otherwise. But I need to know where you are coming from to try to better help you understand.

If you say that a rod can indeed be pushed into a confined cylinder full of oil, where do you believe the oil is going that gets displaced by the rod?

 

[ovrszd]

Many different ways, and analogies, and experiments that can be used to show otherwise. But I need to know where you are coming from to try to better help you understand.

If you say that a rod can indeed be pushed into a confined cylinder full of oil, where do you believe the oil is going that gets displaced by the rod?

I described what I believe is a confined cylinder. Your definition obviously is different. I think of it in relationship to an FEL system. I think that way because that's the subject of this thread. And that's why several have claimed their FEL cylinders doing exactly what you say they cannot.

I could see where this discussion was going and "baited" CalG. He swallowed the hook. I let that go. You and he didn't.

In an FEL system, as is the subject of this thread, there are plenty of places for that oil to go. Several posters have claimed their cylinders collapse over time. I believe them. Very rare to find a system that does not.

So in context of this thread, is it possible for an FEL bucket to drop over time? Yes it is.

By breaking this down into arguable bits we have talked completely overtop of the subject and left many readers behind. That's what normally happens.

We don't bring everyone back into the fold by creating "Correct" "Not Correct" lists. We simply drive off posters who don't want to find their names on "lists".

No worries here.

 

[CalG]

Many different ways, and analogies, and experiments that can be used to show otherwise. But I need to know where you are coming from to try to better help you understand.

If you say that a rod can indeed be pushed into a confined cylinder full of oil, where do you believe the oil is going that gets displaced by the rod?

Hey! I already posed that question! The topic then turned to the weather, in Ohio ......;-)