Ford F150-I'm Done.

[dodge man]

I'm not bashing Toyota, just pointing out they have had there major problems also. I'm not sure how many vehicles I've owned, probably more than 30, and I've personally only had one bad experience. That was my first car when I didn't have any money, it was a 77 Ford Granada. It was a piece of junk but lets face it, they didn't build a lot of good cars then. Since then all the vehicles I've owned have met or exceeded my expectations. I'm sure if I owned Toyota products I would like them also.

 

[nybirdman]

I have a friend with a 2004 Toyota Tundra(180,000 miles) that he purchased new.He had the frame replaced last year.Toyota paid $6,000 of the $10,000 bill.The replacement of the exaust and manifolds,any wiring that they screwed up,brake lines was not paid for by Toyota.The thing eats tires.Bottom line he likes it;personly I
wouldn't own one.

 

[TSO]

Were also getting off track a little bit, the OP was talking about his Ford....

True ... I was only trying to correct some errors and misinformation that was being stated as "facts" but weren't accurate.

Like my original post, I like my Ford trucks (I've owned 8) and will likely continue to own them. I just accept that I'm going to be spending additional money on them to keep them running properly, which is not the case with my Toyota's.

 

[Ford850]

I wasn't trying to bash Toyota as much as making people aware. Do your research on any brand before you buy. I know that the first I heard of the frame issue was a few years ago from a neighbor who lives a mile over from me. He stopped at my house to retrieve a coon hound he lost while hunting. He was grumbling about not having his dog box in the truck because it was a loaner, and explained how his Tundra was in the shop for weeks, getting the frame replaced. I had never heard of such a thing, so I asked some more questions. Overall he said he was still fairly satisfied with the truck but that their other one had to go in for a new frame once they got the first one back. He didn't know how much, if anything, it was going to cost for the repairs. The next year I noticed he had 2 Rams in his driveway.

 

[ProjectKing]

Has anyone noticed that it's the non Toyota owners that bash them? Those of us that have them, LOVE them. Those of us that don't have them, and never have, don't like them and post 'facts' about them that they have no real first hand knowledge of.

I can bash Fords, because I've had them. I can bash GM products (worst I've ever owned) because I've had them. I can bash Chrysler products because I've had them. I can bash Datsun, VW, AMC products because I've had them. In nearly 60 years I've had a lot of brands of trucks and cars. In the past 10 or so years, my wife and I have had several Toyota products and we can honestly say NOTHING bad about them. My brother has had several, both sons have had them, my parents have had them, my daughter in law has had them, all with the same results....good DEPENDABLE machines. My 90 year old WWII veteran father said that he's never had a better vehicle than his Toyota. That's a good recommendation coming from a child of the Depression and a brave WWII vet. We buy Toyotas not because we're brand specific but because they're good...period.

So I'm more interested in hearing what people who actually own Toyota Tundras have to say than those who never have or never will own one because they heard that 'they're no good'.

Well said!

We currently own a Dodge HD truck, Chevy truck and two Toyota sport utes. Toyota is clear winner. All of my family and in-laws have switched to Toyota and they can buy anything they want.

Local multi millionaire farmer drives a Tundra pulling GN cattle trailer. A 100 people with hammers couldn't beat that truck more. Looks like it went through 2 wars. He really likes it... and now has a new one. Old one is on winter cow feeder duty.

 

[gsganzer]

He said that was based on fuel mileage...

Cost of ownership is generally determined by maintenance costs, expected or actual repair costs, and resale value related to initial price.

I'm the one that posted that. The cost per mile was based on total expenses per mile, including routine maintenance, fuel and repairs. I don't know if his calculation included initial cost and residual value, but those costs are probably pretty comparative for the respective trucks and cancel themselves out. (i.e. initial cost might have been higher, but it's resale is probably also higher)

 

[Deere Dude]

I owned a 1982 Toyota pickup and had it for 10 years or so and sold it to a private party. It was a 2WD and never had any problems with it just like a Toyota car I had from the same era.

A couple years later I took a refrigeration certification class in Madison Wisconsin and recognized the owner of the truck I sold him. I asked him how the truck was treating him. He told me that it caved in in the middle. I sheepishly backed out of that conversation very quickly. He maybe overloaded it by throwing half a dozen cement blocks in it.

But I always liked it and would buy one now if they offered heavy duty ones, if the price was right.

I was shopping for a 4 runner or even a regular pickup about 25 years ago and found the Toyota was a lot more expensive for what you get comparing to 1/2 ton Chevy of Ford. That may have changed now but haven't priced them lately.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I owned a 1982 Toyota pickup and had it for 10 years or so and sold it to a private party. It was a 2WD and never had any problems with it just like a Toyota car I had from the same era.

A couple years later I took a refrigeration certification class in Madison Wisconsin and recognized the owner of the truck I sold him. I asked him how the truck was treating him. He told me that it caved in in the middle. I sheepishly backed out of that conversation very quickly. He maybe overloaded it by throwing half a dozen cement blocks in it.

But I always liked it and would buy one now if they offered heavy duty ones, if the price was right.

I was shopping for a 4 runner or even a regular pickup about 25 years ago and found the Toyota was a lot more expensive for what you get comparing to 1/2 ton Chevy of Ford. That may have changed now but haven't priced them lately.

A rust prevention process that was used against rock salt in the 2000s was super susceptible to the new liquid salt process that has quickly been adopted by salt-belt municipalities. The liquid salt eats metals that where the rock salt resistant alive. It isn't uncommon to see mid 2000 Dodge trucks with their fenders rusted through after just a few years. I cannot speak to Toyota trucks because we just don't have them up here in my neck of the woods in sufficient numbers.

 

[TractorGuy]

Still loving my 03 F150 that just turned 165K. Only put one set of brake pads in it that I remember. Test drove an 11 and didn't lie the feel so I stuck with ol reliable. Planning to just run it and keep fixing anything that breaks. So far it's just been normal maintenance.

 

[ProjectKing]

Still loving my 03 F150 that just turned 165K. Only put one set of brake pads in it that I remember. Test drove an 11 and didn't lie the feel so I stuck with ol reliable. Planning to just run it and keep fixing anything that breaks. So far it's just been normal maintenance.

I think those are real good trucks. I know a contractor that had nearly 400,000 miles on it when he sold it. Very little issues. Simplicity = reliability.