Buying Advice What to buy for remote Alaska property

   / What to buy for remote Alaska property #51  
Sounds like a real challenge. In the winter tracks would work great but deep mud is a killer. I can't tell you how many times I've buried my 450 dozer in mud. Luckily mud season is only a couple weeks long around here. If there are other people around your land I would see what they have and when they use what they have.
 
   / What to buy for remote Alaska property #52  
What's access to your timber trees, the sawmill site and building site like? That may determine what type of equipment will work for you.

If those areas are dry then perhaps a small tractor with backhoe may work. Let's you do a lot of different jobs. Tracked skid steer types would be nice but they also have a lot of limitations. With hoe and bucket you might even be able build up soft spots. ( corduroy & dirt )
 
   / What to buy for remote Alaska property #53  
Thanks for all the feedback. For those wondering, this is a recreational cabin that we'll be putting up. With access in summer being expensive, there will be less use in summer than winter. A week or two in the summer and 10-15 weekends in the winter. Fuel will be sledded in during the winter and stored in 55 gallon drum(s). Thankfully our property is dryish, as it's on a rise above lake level. So I shouldn't have too much muck to deal with, but I am nonetheless convinced that tracks are the way to go.

I've been lax in my research though, had just assumed that my 3/4 ton truck could haul a trailer with a skid steer. Bad assumption. It's rated to tow a pukey 8650 lbs. I have never come near that before but a decent hauler trailer and track loader would be more like 10,000+ lbs. So I need to either hire out the transportation or come up with an alternative that allows me to tow with the rig I have. As much as I'd like one, a new truck isn't in the cards right now.

Your 3/4 ton truck can tow a 10,000 lb.+ trailer:
Assuming that your truck is a 4x4 (I assume it is, in AK), has a big engine, and a heavy duty transmission.
I have a 1997 K2500 4x4 (Suburban) with a 454 V-8. The 20 year old 3/4 ton Suburban is a bull!
I think my Suburban door sticker shows that it is rated for 8950 lbs, but I think that is a GVW limit for the vehicle, and is not a tow rating. My Ford 3400 TLB and trailer weigh exactly 12,000 lbs.
I recently towed that rig at highway speeds for over 600 miles with no problems.
I did add airbags to the Suburban (they are great) which allowed me to have 1200 lbs.+ tongue weight.
If you Google - tongue weight with bathroom scale - you will see how to calculate a reasonably accurate tongue weight reading.
The highest capacity frame mounted hitch that I could buy ("Curt" brand) for the K2500 was 12,000 lbs. (So I believe that 12,000 lbs. must be the max legal hitch/tow limit for that vehicle)
I also did use my 14,000 lb. rated Equal-i-zer weight distribution hitch.
My empty trailer weighs 3400 lbs., so I had a useful load of 8600 lbs, and I needed it all!
I think there are many skid steers available at 8600 lbs. or less.
You could also take the skid steer bucket off, and make a second trip to keep total weight down.
If you will tow through hilly country, you should consider installing an auxiliary transmission cooler.
You also should be certain that your trailer has 4 wheel electric brakes (in GOOD condition), and set the controller to cut in rather heavily at the beginning of the braking cycle.
DO NOT TAILGATE ANYONE!
If you do not already have one, buy a good quality equipment trailer ..... with 6000 lb. axles, or better yet,..... 7000 lb. axles.
 
Last edited:
   / What to buy for remote Alaska property #54  
Your 3/4 ton truck can tow a 10,000 lb.+ trailer:
Assuming that your truck is a 4x4 (I assume it is, in AK), has a big engine, and a heavy duty transmission.
I have a 1997 K2500 4x4 (Suburban) with a 454 V-8. The 20 year old 3/4 ton Suburban is a bull!
I think my Suburban door sticker shows that it is rated for 8950 lbs, but I think that is a GVW limit for the vehicle, and is not a tow rating. My Ford 3400 TLB and trailer weigh exactly 12,000 lbs.
I recently towed that rig at highway speeds for over 600 miles with no problems.
I did add airbags to the Suburban (they are great) which allowed me to have 1200 lbs.+ tongue weight.
If you Google - tongue weight with bathroom scale - you will see how to calculate a reasonably accurate tongue weight reading.
The highest capacity frame mounted hitch that I could buy ("Curt" brand) for the K2500 was 12,000 lbs. (So I believe that 12,000 lbs. must be the max legal hitch/tow limit for that vehicle)
I also did use my 14,000 lb. rated Equal-i-zer weight distribution hitch.
My empty trailer weighs 3400 lbs., so I had a useful load of 8600 lbs, and I needed it all!
I think there are many skid steers available at 8600 lbs. or less.
You could also take the skid steer bucket off, and make a second trip to keep total weight down.
If you will tow through hilly country, you should consider installing an auxiliary transmission cooler.
You also should be certain that your trailer has 4 wheel electric brakes (in GOOD condition), and set the controller to cut in rather heavily at the beginning of the braking cycle.
DO NOT TAILGATE ANYONE!
If you do not already have one, buy a good quality equipment trailer ..... with 6000 lb. axles, or better yet,..... 7000 lb. axles.

Well, you were only exceeding your tow limit by 1 ton! :rolleyes:

1997 Chevrolet/GMC Suburban K2500 (4WD) 7.4 V-8 10000 lb
Notes: Requires Z82 Trailering Special Package. Requires automatic transmission. Requires engine-oil cooler. Requires transmission-oil cooler. Requires weight-distributing hitch. Requires 4.10:1 axle ratio
 
   / What to buy for remote Alaska property #55  
Are you planning on bringing the equipment (track steer?) out each spring? Or are you leaving it there?

Something else to consider, how about a Unimog 406 (Case MB4/94) with flotation tires, tire chains, a winch and some attachments (backhoe, front end loader, and forks. Or even a crane.). Front and rear locking diff, exceptional ground clearance, capable of driving on the road.

Another option: Google FLU419 SEE, another model Unimog. Lot's of them on the surplus market right now.

Browse Unimog Exchange for an idea of what's on the market and to see what people are asking. Not that you're gonna pull one with a snowmachine...
 
   / What to buy for remote Alaska property #56  
What do the closest dealers carry? Look around at what other people in the area use. Don't reinvent the wheel. The other thing about the dealers is your parts supply. You will break stuff, at the most inopportune time.
 
   / What to buy for remote Alaska property #57  
Well, you were only exceeding your tow limit by 1 ton! :rolleyes:

1997 Chevrolet/GMC Suburban K2500 (4WD) 7.4 V-8 10000 lb
Notes: Requires Z82 Trailering Special Package. Requires automatic transmission. Requires engine-oil cooler. Requires transmission-oil cooler. Requires weight-distributing hitch. Requires 4.10:1 axle ratio

I just e-mailed Curt hitches to explain to them that their 12,000 hitch listing for a 1997 K2500 4x4 is incorrect, and should be 10,000 Lbs..
They would have a huge liability if an accident occurred, and if it were proven that they deliberately sold a hitch, knowing their published towing limit was incorrect. I just checked, and their advertising still shows 12,000 lbs. for the K2500 4x4.
I am surprised at this error, but they need to fix this, post haste!
I will publish their response.
 
   / What to buy for remote Alaska property #59  
Why not talk with local contractors, or building supplies stores and ask them what they've seen work, or conversely horror stories.
 
   / What to buy for remote Alaska property #60  
1997 Chevrolet/GMC Suburban K25�� (4WD) Tow Capacity - Trailers.com

10,000 which is realistic for a 97.

The hitch is rated for 12000, not the truck.


So Curt (and other hitch manufacturers) sell hitches rated higher than what the truck can pull?
Don't they have to use heavier, more costly materials, when building a hitch with a higher weight rating?
Curt also sells a 10,000 Lb. hitch for this same vehicle.
Why would they make and sell a 12,000 Lb. hitch when the towing vehicle is limited to 10,000 Lbs.?
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

John Deere 6410 Loader Tractor (A50514)
John Deere 6410...
2018 Ford F-450 Crew Cab Knapheide Service Truck (A49461)
2018 Ford F-450...
RIGID TOOLBOX (A50854)
RIGID TOOLBOX (A50854)
VENTRAC 4500Z ARTICULATING TRACTOR (A51242)
VENTRAC 4500Z...
2020 FREIGHTLINER CASCADIA SLEEPER (A51222)
2020 FREIGHTLINER...
2000 Dnya RGN T/A Lowboy Trailer (A49461)
2000 Dnya RGN T/A...
 
Top