Ford F150-I'm Done.

[ovrszd]

Just stating the obvious. You are welcome.

This is the Wrestle with a pig" parable. I'll decline thank you.

 

[Shaneard]

What about the guys that waste valuable bed space with a tool box or fuel tank?

Put the fuel tank in your SUV and let me know how that smells.

 

[94BULLITT]

Put the fuel tank in your SUV and let me know how that smells.

I was joking. People equip their truck to serve their needs. That is why we have options. What works for you might not work for me.

 

[94BULLITT]

Not to derail this, but the "cheap lightly used truck" concept isn't working here. Used truck prices seem to me sky high. Lots of good ones on the market but lots of buyers also, I guess.

In a lot of cases I see used trucks bringing more than what a new one would be.

 

[94BULLITT]

The used trucks on the market don't appear cheap at first glance. Then when you compare the asking price to that of a new truck they become very cheap.

Good friend of mine has a friend selling a 2001 Ford F250 Power Stroke Lariatt 4dr long bed 4wd truck. Straight as a pin. Never been on a gravel road. Never pulled a trailer. Shedded it's whole life. 26,000 miles. Can be bought for $20,000. Is that cheap?

At a glance it doesn't appear so. After all, it's 16 years old. But when looked at closer, considering a new one similarly equipped would cost $50,000, it begins to look very cheap indeed.

In the light truck market there are many, many trucks for sale under similar circumstances. And as you mentioned, there are many, many buyers. Those buyers aren't willing to accept the depreciation rate they will experience when buying new.

Can you compare a new 2001 to a current truck? A new truck has nearly twice the power and torque, 2 more gears in the trans, better brakes, more towing capacity, and payload. So a new one is more of a truck in a lot of ways. Then a lariat back in 01 is the equivalent of a low end XLT minus the leather seats. Then the new engine and trans, especially the trans is more reliable than what we had in 2001.

 

[Shaneard]

I was joking. People equip their truck to serve their needs. That is why we have options. What works for you might not work for me.

I agree. To each their own. I choose to throw things over the side, into the side whatever, it's just a truck, lol.

 

[ultrarunner]

Reliable and dependable have to be at the top of my list followed by economy of operation for intended purpose.

No denying new vehicles have features and capabilities unimaginable not all that long ago.

That said plenty I know have had real issues with new trucks/vehicles/tractors etc.

Never before have I been around so many fleet buyers that really have no desire to retain vehicles after the warranties expire... seen the same for high end luxury vehicles too... lots of leasing simply to avoid or monetize risk.

 

[TSO]

The used trucks on the market don't appear cheap at first glance. Then when you compare the asking price to that of a new truck they become very cheap.

Good friend of mine has a friend selling a 2001 Ford F250 Power Stroke Lariatt 4dr long bed 4wd truck. Straight as a pin. Never been on a gravel road. Never pulled a trailer. Shedded it's whole life. 26,000 miles. Can be bought for $20,000. Is that cheap?

At a glance it doesn't appear so. After all, it's 16 years old. But when looked at closer, considering a new one similarly equipped would cost $50,000, it begins to look very cheap indeed.

In the light truck market there are many, many trucks for sale under similar circumstances. And as you mentioned, there are many, many buyers. Those buyers aren't willing to accept the depreciation rate they will experience when buying new.

I'd buy that truck for $20k...

 

[nate57]

It'll be interesting to see what happens to prices with interest rates rising.

 

[murphy1244]

I'd buy that truck for $20k...

In a NY minute!:thumbsup:

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Yep, Oversize has this all figured out. LAffin.

Essentially he was here to stroke his ego by claiming that few people used their truck they he does. Then it progressed into claiming that people with toppers do not use their trucks. Now these trucks with toppers are "clean and easy to find cheap trucks" when in reality they are extremely valuable because they have not been used and abused.

Pretty much everything he claims has been wrong so far but at this point just let him run with it. I think it makes him feel better about himself to brag about his truck bed being used. It's mildly entertaining even with his obvious desire to turn this into an argument.

No, dude. You are trying to turn it into an argument. Lighten up, please, so the rest of us can enjoy the thread. Thank you.

 

[Sysop]

To try and turn the conversation back to it's intended course, I'll add:

I purchased a 2015 F150 Lariat at the end of March. It has the 3.5L ecoboost. I have over 28000 miles on it now. Just shy of 10000 of those miles have been with a trailer in tow. All but the first hundred(ish) miles has also had about a 1000lbs of tools and supplies onboard. I average 17MPG, and that is with about 20% of the engine hours spent idling. So far it has been trouble-free and the only costs have been work-related add-ons, oil changes, and gasoline.

 

[ovrszd]

In a lot of cases I see used trucks bringing more than what a new one would be.

Wow, I'd like to see that???

 

[tjkubota93]

Can you compare a new 2001 to a current truck? A new truck has nearly twice the power and torque, 2 more gears in the trans, better brakes, more towing capacity, and payload. So a new one is more of a truck in a lot of ways. Then a lariat back in 01 is the equivalent of a low end XLT minus the leather seats. Then the new engine and trans, especially the trans is more reliable than what we had in 2001.

That 2001 with the 7.3 powerstroke (444e) will run forever and then some. Ford built their HD rep (that 6.0 and 6.4 almost destoyed) with that truck.

 

[ovrszd]

Can you compare a new 2001 to a current truck? A new truck has nearly twice the power and torque, 2 more gears in the trans, better brakes, more towing capacity, and payload. So a new one is more of a truck in a lot of ways. Then a lariat back in 01 is the equivalent of a low end XLT minus the leather seats. Then the new engine and trans, especially the trans is more reliable than what we had in 2001.

My 2000 Lariatt has full leather, pwr windows, seats, etc.

Do the differences you listed have a $30,000 value??

Are you indicating the current Power Stroke is more reliable than the 7.3L offered in 2001?

 

[coobie]

Not sure why the personal name calling. But again, you are welcome.

I put him on IGNORE about 1 year agNLY person on this site I have had to do this with.Always negative and wants to pick a fight..Life is to short for folks like him..

 

[Bird]

My friend has a brand new F-150 with the 2.7 Eco-Boost and it's eating engine oil. No one can figure it out. No leaks. it loses 4 litres every 5000 KM.

Like everything else made today....junk.

I'm so "outdated". I'd never consider a 2.7L engine in a truck.....

I've had my 2015 F150 Super Crew with the 2.7L engine just over a year. It was a demo with 10k miles on it when I bought it and it's got just over 27k miles on it now. Since I didn't know for sure what service had been done, I had the oil & filter changed at 13526 miles and again at 18324 miles. It's never needed any oil added between changes, and yes you can go longer between changes than I do, but I'm just too old fashioned, I guess, and most of my driving is stop and go city driving.

As for the 2.7L engine, if I'd been buy NEW, I would not have gotten the 2.7L, but now that I have it, I'm glad I do have the 2.7L. It's got all the power and acceleration I need. It's rated for a 5,000 lb. trailer and has the hitch, although I've not yet needed to pull a trailer. And even with mostly city driving, it's overall average since I've owned it is 20.842 mpg, although if I went with just individual tanks, as many people do, it's sometimes better than 23.5 mpg.

 

[ovrszd]

I put him on IGNORE about 1 year agNLY person on this site I have had to do this with.Always negative and wants to pick a fight..Life is to short for folks like him..

Thanks Coobie. I might try that. I've never done that before either.

 

[ovrszd]

I've had my 2015 F150 Super Crew with the 2.7L engine just over a year. It was a demo with 10k miles on it when I bought it and it's got just over 27k miles on it now. Since I didn't know for sure what service had been done, I had the oil & filter changed at 13526 miles and again at 18324 miles. It's never needed any oil added between changes, and yes you can go longer between changes than I do, but I'm just too old fashioned, I guess, and most of my driving is stop and go city driving.

As for the 2.7L engine, if I'd been buy NEW, I would not have gotten the 2.7L, but now that I have it, I'm glad I do have the 2.7L. It's got all the power and acceleration I need. It's rated for a 5,000 lb. trailer and has the hitch, although I've not yet needed to pull a trailer. And even with mostly city driving, it's overall average since I've owned it is 20.842 mpg, although if I went with just individual tanks, as many people do, it's sometimes better than 23.5 mpg.

Thanks for the report Bird.

I have no doubt modern technology can enable a 2.7L engine to produce more than adequate power. My concerns with it would be long term. Here's hoping it gives you great service for many years to come!!!

 

[Sysop]

Lariats today, the leather is heated and in most cases cooled as well. The rear slider is power as well. The power seats have more adjustment than they used to, not to mention the adjustable pedals and the tilt+telescoping steering wheel. They track the miles on your trailers for you making maintenance intervals easier to keep up with. The power door locks lock the tailgate. The power locks on today's Lariat's unlock the door for you when you take ahold of the handle to open the door. 4WD Lariats now have an automatic 4WD system that can be used all the time which can save your goose in patchy weather where full time 4WD would bind and/or wear components.

There are many major additions to newer Lariats versus the ones from 2000 that I'm not even mentioning. They have stuff now that wasn't even an idea in 2000.

To answer the question of $30k in value would need some other variables answered. Number one would be, are you talking about $30,000 at the value of dollars in 2000, or 2016/17? In today's world, it is apparently worth $30k of today's dollars or they wouldn't be selling more and more every year.