New Deere lineup changes? 5000R..?

[MF283]

Here's a link to the 5r series
John Deere: Latest 5R Series tractors designed for comfort, compactness and capability | What's new in Farming

Ronnie

 

[AKfish]

Here's a link to the 5r series
John Deere: Latest 5R Series tractors designed for comfort, compactness and capability | What's new in Farming

Ronnie

Thanks, Ronnie. Looks like the UK, though. The tractor specs like a small frame 6 series.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

Here's the US release:

Utility Tractors | 5R Series Tractors | John Deere US

 

[AKfish]

Here's the US release:

Utility Tractors | 5R Series Tractors | John Deere US

Wow! I have to admit... I'm really impressed - the small frame 6000 is back - and it's even smaller! Whew - the transmission options are also what you'd really wish for.

Some concerns about the total reliance on electronics, though. Even the clutch is controlled electronically! (But, that's what the large-frame Ag tractors have been working with for many years...)

Also have a question regarding the engineering of the oil pan integral to the tractor frame structure... I can appreciate the idea of isolating the engine from the stresses inherent in a machine (especially a loader tractor) so, why create a situation where you might have consistent oil leaks? What am I missing here?

Looking forward to seeing more details as well. Like tractor weight and tire sizes. And ballast options. Rear SCV's.

Man, the visibility from the cab! Impressive.

Thanks for the info, Matt.

 

[jenkinsph]

Wow! I have to admit... I'm really impressed - the small frame 6000 is back - and it's even smaller! Whew - the transmission options are also what you'd really wish for.

Some concerns about the total reliance on electronics, though. Even the clutch is controlled electronically! (But, that's what the large-frame Ag tractors have been working with for many years...)

Also have a question regarding the engineering of the oil pan integral to the tractor frame structure... I can appreciate the idea of isolating the engine from the stresses inherent in a machine (especially a loader tractor) so, why create a situation where you might have consistent oil leaks? What am I missing here?

Looking forward to seeing more details as well. Like tractor weight and tire sizes. And ballast options. Rear SCV's.

Man, the visibility from the cab! Impressive.

Thanks for the info, Matt.

Larry I thought you worked in instrumentation and controls for a living? Is that correct or am I mistaken?

 

[AKfish]

Steve, Nah.... I'm retired - tarded. Spending my kids inheritance on this farming craziness.

Speaking of craziness... I had a chance to work through the "build it" on the JD website for the new 5R. Whoa!!! For the small and mid-size farm and ranch operation? List price works out to be just over a $1,000 per Hp!

Alaska just legalized marijuana. They might be the target market for these tractors. At the very least, if they stay high enough - they won't care about the monthly payments!

A low-hour 6430P is looking better and better.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

They do indeed look impressive, I really hope the larger radial tires are available in the US market. It seems they're extremely common on the UK.
With all the electronics I won't be buying a first production year of these units. Let them work out the bugs over then next 2-3 yrs.

Matt

 

[jenkinsph]

Steve, Nah.... I'm retired - tarded. Spending my kids inheritance on this farming craziness.

Speaking of craziness... I had a chance to work through the "build it" on the JD website for the new 5R. Whoa!!! For the small and mid-size farm and ranch operation? List price works out to be just over a $1,000 per Hp!

Alaska just legalized marijuana. They might be the target market for these tractors. At the very least, if they stay high enough - they won't care about the monthly payments!

A low-hour 6430P is looking better and better.

I went through the build your own section partially and stopped at 106k for the 5115R. I will stick with the plan for something old and used with power shift. I can rebuild a lot of PS for that kind of money.

I will keep my small tractors I have now and add a larger tractor if the leveling business takes off. I am hesitant to go too large and increase the transportation costs for moving the larger rigs.

 

[AKfish]

I went through the build your own section partially and stopped at 106k for the 5115R. I will stick with the plan for something old and used with power shift. I can rebuild a lot of PS for that kind of money.

I will keep my small tractors I have now and add a larger tractor if the leveling business takes off. I am hesitant to go too large and increase the transportation costs for moving the larger rigs.

I was just over $116K for the 5115R with a H310 loader. I built it with an eye towards keeping the cost in reason....

No Command8, no electronic joystick, no heated seat, no panoramic cab, no big radial tires, no ballast, etc. I didn't go whole hog! Should go back and see what a "top of the line - whole enchilada" machine would list at.

Did notice that the new, 540R loader looks a whole lot like the 400CX loader, too. Slightly curved boom, self-leveling arms are located just below the boom arms and the bucket curl cylinder mounts to the boom arms are configured like the 400CX - much larger - no doubt.

Can't get a price on the new loader, yet.

Don't you still have your Ford 450, Steve? You should be within GVWR hauling a 6000P. Matt and I should be able to "load and go" a 6000 (minus loader and unballasted) with our 3500 DMax's.

No info yet on the 5000R weights that I've seen.

 

[jenkinsph]

I was just over $116K for the 5115R with a H310 loader. I built it with an eye towards keeping the cost in reason....

No Command8, no electronic joystick, no heated seat, no panoramic cab, no big radial tires, no ballast, etc. I didn't go whole hog! Should go back and see what a "top of the line - whole enchilada" machine would list at.

Did notice that the new, 540R loader looks a whole lot like the 400CX loader, too. Slightly curved boom, self-leveling arms are located just below the boom arms and the bucket curl cylinder mounts to the boom arms are configured like the 400CX - much larger - no doubt.

Can't get a price on the new loader, yet.

Don't you still have your Ford 450, Steve? You should be within GVWR hauling a 6000P. Matt and I should be able to "load and go" a 6000 (minus loader and unballasted) with our 3500 DMax's.

No info yet on the 5000R weights that I've seen.

I priced with the standard cab, upgraded transmission 32/16 electric/hydraulics and no loader, did not get that far.

I still have a Ford 550 XLT 4x4 diesel with 4.88 ratio and heavy duty towing package. Only 55k miles on it in good shape so I will be building this truck up with a new body tailored to suit the tractor work. Sold the F550 plumbing service truck and F350 flatbed a while back. I don't see a problem hauling a 12 to 14k trailer but anything above that would require new trailer and hitch for GN. Right now I need to buy an implement trailer to haul all the crap for pasture renovating.

Still considering an older Case IH, Deere, MF, Ford and others for pulling a small scraper and roto tiller.