Trespassers shot

   / Trespassers shot #61  
Trespassers have someone drop them off and hunt our game then call to be picked up. They locate our out of sight pond by aeriel photography slip in fish, and litter the dam. One reported a boat that we stored in an off the road shed to the police. I guess he thought we stole it stole it and wanted to get us into trouble because we'd run him off in the past. Pretty soon the boat really was stolen. They've stolen junk machinery parts that I bought and stored for future use and anything else that's struck their fancy. I don't wish them dead. I just wish they'd stay away.
 
   / Trespassers shot #62  
You are certainly welcome to carry a Glock, without a safety, in your pocket as often as you want.
You probably enjoy riding a Harley without a helmet too.
In my book, it just ain't smart!
Whatever makes you feel good, is just fine with me.

Actually I carry a Kahr without a safety, my 75 YO wife carries the Glock42.
Yes back when I did ride, I rode without a helmet whenever it was legal.
Never shot myself (or anyone else) and didn't kill myself on the bike.
 
   / Trespassers shot #63  
" If you use your own hot ammo they can get you on intent to kill or something like that."
I think that is a common misconception. But not true. I don't think they can charge you for making your bullets deadly...
I like Black Talons myself.

What law school did he teach at?


Don't think the problem is with the law but with the civil suit after the shooting. About a year or so ago I talked to a young lady who had just moved into our area and opened a gun shop with her husband. She may have been feeding me a line and this is third hand so take it for what it is worth. She said that her and her husband had managed a shooting range and gun store in another state before moving to Kentucky. As "experts" on firearms, and she laughed when she said that, they had been called on to testify in more than twenty firearms related lawsuits over several years. According to her if you are involved in a shooting and even if you are cleared by the police your problems are just starting. Even if your home was broken into and threats made against your family, more than likely you will have to defend yourself in a civil trial brought by the person you shot or his/her survivors. Once again, this is after you have been cleared by the law. According to this lady, the attorneys for the people filing the lawsuit against you will try to get a jury that knows absolutely nothing about firearms. Then they will bring up everything they can to paint you as somebody just out looking to shoot somebody for the thrill of it. Three things she said they bring up in every concealed carry class they teach. First, always use commercial ammo with defense or protection in the name. They wont even stock the Hornady Zombie Killer ammo in their shop though they have Critical Defense in large supply. Said that a lawyer will tell the grannies and hippies on the jury that you were out to kill somebody, just look at the ammo they had. Second is to never have your carry weapon modified or customized. And she said especially work on the trigger. The lawyers will tell the jury that you had the trigger modified so it would be easier to pull and kill somebody. They are competitive shooters and travel all over to compete using highly modified weapons but their carry arms, even what they have on in the store, are strictly factory stock. The third thing was more common sense, said people had lost a large part of their future lifetime earnings because somebody had heard them saying something like 'if anybody breaks in my house I will shoot first'. She said that they caution their classes over and over that anything that you say today at a family gathering can come back and bite you in the *** two years in the future in a court of law.

Take all this for what it is worth, third hand from somebody that I don't actually know if they were telling me the truth or not. Other things she told me turned out to be true. Such as Ruger bringing out the LCP II, she told me about it a year before it appeared. And other things that I thought were strange that I wont go into.

Don't flame me for this post. I'm repeating what was told me by a nice young lady who seemed to know more about pistols than anybody I have ever talked to before. She may have been blowing smoke but I really don't think so.

RSKY
 
   / Trespassers shot #64  
They've stolen junk machinery parts that I bought and stored for future use and anything else that's struck their fancy.

Trespassers will steal anything around here, even our Halloween pumpkin! :mad:
 
   / Trespassers shot #65  
Ahhhh another no nothing that is 100% confident in his gun views and wasn't there and is clueless to the actual facts. Two thugs trespassing ( DROPPED OFF IS THE CLUE - GETAWAY CAR). The Gun nut is alive and the thugs are where they belong 6' under ground.

That would be 'know nothing' actually, NOT no nuthin', DUH!:confused2:
And you were there? Probably dressed in drag as one of the women in the 'getaway car', 'jour momma's Edsel I surmise?!:shocked:
How else would anyone, including you, know the 'actual facts'?
Well, even you got one part right; the gun nut is still alive to blast at other's without penalty. Yeah toters! Won another one, eh?!:duh:
 
   / Trespassers shot #66  
Don't think the problem is with the law but with the civil suit after the shooting. About a year or so ago I talked to a young lady who had just moved into our area and opened a gun shop with her husband. She may have been feeding me a line and this is third hand so take it for what it is worth. She said that her and her husband had managed a shooting range and gun store in another state before moving to Kentucky. As "experts" on firearms, and she laughed when she said that, they had been called on to testify in more than twenty firearms related lawsuits over several years. According to her if you are involved in a shooting and even if you are cleared by the police your problems are just starting. Even if your home was broken into and threats made against your family, more than likely you will have to defend yourself in a civil trial brought by the person you shot or his/her survivors. Once again, this is after you have been cleared by the law. According to this lady, the attorneys for the people filing the lawsuit against you will try to get a jury that knows absolutely nothing about firearms. Then they will bring up everything they can to paint you as somebody just out looking to shoot somebody for the thrill of it. Three things she said they bring up in every concealed carry class they teach. First, always use commercial ammo with defense or protection in the name. They wont even stock the Hornady Zombie Killer ammo in their shop though they have Critical Defense in large supply. Said that a lawyer will tell the grannies and hippies on the jury that you were out to kill somebody, just look at the ammo they had. Second is to never have your carry weapon modified or customized. And she said especially work on the trigger. The lawyers will tell the jury that you had the trigger modified so it would be easier to pull and kill somebody. They are competitive shooters and travel all over to compete using highly modified weapons but their carry arms, even what they have on in the store, are strictly factory stock. The third thing was more common sense, said people had lost a large part of their future lifetime earnings because somebody had heard them saying something like 'if anybody breaks in my house I will shoot first'. She said that they caution their classes over and over that anything that you say today at a family gathering can come back and bite you in the *** two years in the future in a court of law.

Take all this for what it is worth, third hand from somebody that I don't actually know if they were telling me the truth or not. Other things she told me turned out to be true. Such as Ruger bringing out the LCP II, she told me about it a year before it appeared. And other things that I thought were strange that I wont go into.

Don't flame me for this post. I'm repeating what was told me by a nice young lady who seemed to know more about pistols than anybody I have ever talked to before. She may have been blowing smoke but I really don't think so.

RSKY

In my Opinion, and it is JUST that. The young lady gave good advice. All three points. By the way I carry Hornady Critical Defense.
 
   / Trespassers shot #67  
Don't think the problem is with the law but with the civil suit after the shooting. About a year or so ago I talked to a young lady who had just moved into our area and opened a gun shop with her husband. She may have been feeding me a line and this is third hand so take it for what it is worth. She said that her and her husband had managed a shooting range and gun store in another state before moving to Kentucky. As "experts" on firearms, and she laughed when she said that, they had been called on to testify in more than twenty firearms related lawsuits over several years. According to her if you are involved in a shooting and even if you are cleared by the police your problems are just starting. Even if your home was broken into and threats made against your family, more than likely you will have to defend yourself in a civil trial brought by the person you shot or his/her survivors. Once again, this is after you have been cleared by the law. According to this lady, the attorneys for the people filing the lawsuit against you will try to get a jury that knows absolutely nothing about firearms. Then they will bring up everything they can to paint you as somebody just out looking to shoot somebody for the thrill of it. Three things she said they bring up in every concealed carry class they teach. First, always use commercial ammo with defense or protection in the name. They wont even stock the Hornady Zombie Killer ammo in their shop though they have Critical Defense in large supply. Said that a lawyer will tell the grannies and hippies on the jury that you were out to kill somebody, just look at the ammo they had. Second is to never have your carry weapon modified or customized. And she said especially work on the trigger. The lawyers will tell the jury that you had the trigger modified so it would be easier to pull and kill somebody. They are competitive shooters and travel all over to compete using highly modified weapons but their carry arms, even what they have on in the store, are strictly factory stock. The third thing was more common sense, said people had lost a large part of their future lifetime earnings because somebody had heard them saying something like 'if anybody breaks in my house I will shoot first'. She said that they caution their classes over and over that anything that you say today at a family gathering can come back and bite you in the *** two years in the future in a court of law.

Take all this for what it is worth, third hand from somebody that I don't actually know if they were telling me the truth or not. Other things she told me turned out to be true. Such as Ruger bringing out the LCP II, she told me about it a year before it appeared. And other things that I thought were strange that I wont go into.

Don't flame me for this post. I'm repeating what was told me by a nice young lady who seemed to know more about pistols than anybody I have ever talked to before. She may have been blowing smoke but I really don't think so.

RSKY

I would fire an attorney that didn't throw these evidences into the mix during trial arguments. Everything should be considered if somebody wrongs you or your loved one.
 
   / Trespassers shot #68  
Cat_Driver - It is my firm hope that you never meet a bear - trespassing or otherwise - that has to be dispatched with your pistol. It's a tough lesson to learn that a pistol will usually only aggregate a bear. You best have a 12 gauge with 00 buckshot or bypass any type of confrontation.

There is a VERY GOOD reason that most all Alaskan guides carry either a shot gun or large caliber rifle. Having a pistol - of most any caliber - strapped on is just a myth, regarding protection, and an excellent invitation to learn, first hand, how fast & powerful any bear really can be.

If you think a 350 pound crack head is a tough case - then you will be eaten alive by a 175 pound black bear. He will probably gnaw on your pistol as an after dinner snack.

When I was in Alaska in the AF 1955/5 6 they would organize bear hunts on the Kenai Peninsula and Kodiak ISl. They issued the rifles and ammo and one of the things issued was a 45 or 356 handgun, mandatory to carry it while hunting. I had a buddy who went on one hunt. He said he was walking along when bib one stood up behind a bush "If they want their rifle back, they can go get it".
 
   / Trespassers shot #69  
Trespassers will steal anything around here, even our Halloween pumpkin! :mad:

I was wondering if the guy had left the bodies out by the road if they would take them. Here they'll come right up a short drive to take something out of a pickup. Wish I had my Stihjl 192T back.
 

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