Is 20 ton enough?

   / Is 20 ton enough? #11  
The acetylene flame is hotter from my experience. You will use more oxygen with propane, but oxygen is cheaper than acetylene, as the price has gone way up on acetylene. Propane works fine for brazing and silver soldering. I use my regular oxy-acetylene welding tips for heating with propane. If you use it for cutting you need different cutting tips, and it takes longer to pre-heat to get a cut started.
 
   / Is 20 ton enough? #12  
I'm unsure about the force needed to bend angle iron. However I can speak to the HF press. It is under engineered and begins to bend under pressure. If a bearing or something else suddenly releases the tension cause parts to fly! Very dangerous! I took mine apart and have/will never use it again- for anything! Life lesson for me- some things you can't cheap out on- something that generates 20 tons of force isn't one of them.

Remove the 20 ton jack, replace with a 12 ton, keep using the press.

Bruce
 
   / Is 20 ton enough? #13  
Remove the 20 ton jack, replace with a 12 ton, keep using the press.

Bruce
Huh?? (had to use two question marks to get enough characters to post... there that ought to do it).
 
   / Is 20 ton enough? #14  
If the press is under-engineered for a 20 ton force, just change the jack to a 12 ton. Continue using it, but now it is a safer 12 ton press. :)

Bruce
 
   / Is 20 ton enough? #15  
If the press is under-engineered for a 20 ton force, just change the jack to a 12 ton. Continue using it, but now it is a safer 12 ton press. :)

Bruce
Gotcha... you were responding to Neumann.
 
   / Is 20 ton enough?
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#16  
Great! Will look into the adapter for propane then. I have a couple extra tanks of propane and might be able to step up to a bigger oxy bottle that way.
 
   / Is 20 ton enough? #17  
I'm unsure about the force needed to bend angle iron. However I can speak to the HF press. It is under engineered and begins to bend under pressure. If a bearing or something else suddenly releases the tension cause parts to fly! Very dangerous! I took mine apart and have/will never use it again- for anything! Life lesson for me- some things you can't cheap out on- something that generates 20 tons of force isn't one of them.

I needed to bend some 3/8 ths x 2 inch steel to make a clevis. I used my 34 ton log splitter. It worked great. I made a form out 4x4's and 2x8's to make the shape that I wanted and set it up against the end that holds the log. Sent the ram down the line and it bent it with no problem.
 
   / Is 20 ton enough?
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#18  
Hmmm there's an idea. I do have a splitter. Would hate to chip or crack the wedge though.
 
   / Is 20 ton enough?
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#20  
Got it. I will go ahead with my cut and weld for now.
 

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