scdeerslayer
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Did you actually hand them your card? If not, it could have been a skimmer on the pump that they weren't aware of.
Local Walmart Selling Ethanol-Free Gasoline!!
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Did you actually hand them your card? If not, it could have been a skimmer on the pump that they weren't aware of.
aeblank
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I thought it said off road use only at the station I got it from. I was just down there today too, I coulda looked.
If I'm wrong, then good. I just thought it was.
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Ethanol free gasoline sold at airports, contains lead (100LL).
Lead is reported to cause carbon buildup.
aeblank
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Great, I need to fill up my '48 PowerWagon at an airport now?... Haha.
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Because lead has lubricity additives, you really need it for older engines that do not have hardened valve guides. I regularly got gas for my 8N at the airport. You can buy an additive now instead but that's what I did 25 years ago when lead was outlawed and old engines either should have leaded fuel, an additive or replacement hardened valve guides. I would never use leaded fuel in a modern engine because of the costly emissions stuff it would damage.
On ethanol gas and off road comments, it is improbable that you saw that. That was for off road diesel fuel. Maybe try ethanol free gas sometime; they say you get 10% better mileage.
aeblank
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It was like $1.25 more per gallon. I'll take my 10% hit.
For the PW, it's about 70 years old, all original. I'll probably rebuild and get hardened seats. It sits till time magically appears.
For the PW, it's about 70 years old, all original. I'll probably rebuild and get hardened seats. It sits till time magically appears.
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I have seen off road gas at a local station, it was racing fuel. Only time I have ever seen off road use only gas at a station.
A question on the gas sold at airports, I have been told it is high enough octane rating to burn up at least such as atv engines. Is that true?
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Aviation gas is 100 (low lead) octane!
I do know that local fire departments buy it for their small generators and chain saws.
I always thought that the only damage 100LL could do was to your wallet.
Copperhead
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It is truly criminal how stations that have ethanol free have up charge compared to ethanol laced fuel. May not be their doing, but the fuel terminal. Gas closed Friday on the commodity market at $1.58. Ethanol closed at $1.51. To have a 20 or 30 cent up charge for ethanol free is taking advantage of folks. I have no problem using ethanol, and do, but also know that it is unethical to charge more than a fuel is actually worth. Especially since all fuel terminals get only ethanol free gas only from the refiners. The ethanol is mixed in later, either at the terminal when loaded on the tanker, or at the retailer. But, also state taxation and such play a hand in fuel costs at the pump, and many times states will play games with taxes to manipulate the market.