New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel?

   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel?
  • Thread Starter
#101  
My Fill-Rite arrived today but no suction tube came with the package. Pump, nozzle, hose and tank adapter.

Should it have come with a suction tube? What are you guys using for a suction tube?
 
   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel? #102  
It has been a long time, but I believe my fill rite came with the suction tube. Several years ago I made up a pvc suction tube to empty a 250 gallon heating oil tank - I believe it was standard 1" npt.
Do yourself a favor and get an auto shutoff nozzle now...
 
   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel?
  • Thread Starter
#103  
I did get the auto shutoff, I bought a FR700 series, it's 115V - requires 1.25" suction pipe. Which seems to be larger than the "standard" for all the other ones.
 
   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel? #104  
I used to know this but isn't the higher the micron number the smaller the size it will filter?

On a filter SCREEN the higher the number the smaller the holes, if I remember correctly.
 
   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel? #105  
On a filter SCREEN the higher the number the smaller the holes, if I remember correctly.
Generally speaking, on a screen the size is number of holes per inch versus the maximum particle size that the filter will pass.

Aaron Z
 
   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel? #106  
A little off topic but it fits with the micron filtering topic so I will toss this out for folks to consider.

I was at a repair facility for my poles saw and decided to ask for a filter for my 3400 HydroGear drive for my zero turn mower. The manager and I got to talking and I told him I had ordered some filters online for about 1/3 less than his selling price of $18 each but they wouldn't be in for several days. He said I hope you got the OEM filters from HydroGear and I said they were.

He said one customer decided to go to the auto parts and buy a filter "that fit" for his mower and got a 10 micron filter thinking it would be ok. Well the filters are suction filters on these machines and while the 10 microns filter great the resistance is too great and starved his pump for oil resulting in a burned up mower transmission. The OEM filters are 20 microns (according to the repair shop guy) filtering a 10W-50 motor oil and anything less than that causes too much restriction in the oil flow. I did end up buying 2 filters so I could get finished with my oil change. Now I have 4 filters which should last me for 600 hours of mowing (including the 2 I just installed) @ about 75 hours per year, I think I am good for a lot of years.

As a point of interest also he recommended 15W-50 full synthetic rather than the standard OEM required 10W-50 high detergent motor oil. He said it would quieten the HST whine down a lot. OF COURSE, no one carries that grade of synthetic (besides him) that I could find so I put back the regular dino oil this time.
A little whine over the motor noise isn't that bad.
 
   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel? #107  
A little off topic but it fits with the micron filtering topic so I will toss this out for folks to consider.

I was at a repair facility for my poles saw and decided to ask for a filter for my 3400 HydroGear drive for my zero turn mower. The manager and I got to talking and I told him I had ordered some filters online for about 1/3 less than his selling price of $18 each but they wouldn't be in for several days. He said I hope you got the OEM filters from HydroGear and I said they were.

He said one customer decided to go to the auto parts and buy a filter "that fit" for his mower and got a 10 micron filter thinking it would be ok. Well the filters are suction filters on these machines and while the 10 microns filter great the backflow pressure is too great and starved his pump for oil resulting in a burned up mower transmission. The OEM filters are 20 microns (according to the repair shop guy) filtering a 10W-50 motor oil and anything less than that causes too much restriction in the oil flow. I did end up buying 2 filters so I could get finished with my oil change. Now I have 4 filters which should last me for 600 hours of mowing (including the 2 I just installed) @ about 75 hours per year, I think I am good for a lot of years.

As a point of interest also he recommended 15W-50 full synthetic rather than the standard OEM required 10W-50 high detergent motor oil. He said it would quieten the HST whine down a lot. OF COURSE, no one carries that grade of synthetic (besides him) that I could find so I put back the regular dino oil this time.
A little whine over the motor noise isn't that bad.
 
   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel?
  • Thread Starter
#108  
Would black iron pipe be the best / most durable?
 
   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel? #109  
Would black iron pipe be the best / most durable?
For diesel tank plumbing? Yes. Galvanized can be problematic. I'm not sure I buy the thoery that the sink galvanizing can chemically alter the diesel fuel some people advocate. But it sure can flake off & become particulate matter. A filter after any galvanized plumbing should take care of that though.
 
   / New Storage Tank - How to Protect My Fuel?
  • Thread Starter
#110  
Agreed. I do not have anything galvanized in my system - just needs put together.

Fill Rite made my pump to take a 1.25" NPT pipe, but when contacted, they only sell a 1" suction tube. I'll see what I have laying around but looks like I'll need to get some black iron pipe and probably an adapter since 1.25" isn't the most common size...
 

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