Finally got some asphalt millings..

   / Finally got some asphalt millings.. #21  
Find a paving contractor to get some proper seal coat. They can get much better sealer than the local hardware stocks.

It's best sprayed on hot & then dusting it with a light coating of sand.
 
   / Finally got some asphalt millings.. #22  
And evaporate out the remaining Bitumen??
The diesel looks good today but long term it is harmful. See what it does to asphalt!

Asphalt is made from bitumen.
Oil is parrafin based.
they are not the same.
Most asphalt in us comes from oil distillation.
Diesel is from the more volatile end of the oil spectrum.
I have never heard of anyone sealing asphalt millings as there is no structure to hold together and seal
 
   / Finally got some asphalt millings.. #23  
Seems like you have some experience. I build stone driveways for a living. I have never done a millings driveway so I tore my beautiful stone driveway out and put this in. The base is so hard I cannot tear it up with my boxblade or my bucket. It is like a rock and 16 inches deep. Been in for years. I put in screened millings at about 3 inches deep before rolling. I have no idea the age of the millings or anything like that. No I am not going to diesel them or oil them. The driveway right now is as hard as any gravel driveway can get except for the very very top. If I turn my foot on it I can make a mark. I can drive my truck or tractor in a straight line with no tracks. It is like a dust on top that is irritating. I want to seal it and be done with it but want to do it the best I can.

I admit to being a little confused. Why would you take out a stone (I assume you don't mean gravel) driveway to install a recycled blacktop millings 3 inches thick. Isn't the goal of a driveway to be hard and even and maintenance free? It would seem you already had that and took it out.

Personally, my driveway (about 175 feet long and a big apron too) - is concrete (with colorant). If I didn't do concrete I would have done a contained edge and used a heavy base of gravel with compaction - and then with an over-layer of tailings/millings because I don't like blacktop. In heat - blacktop goes soft which means marking and wheel compaction lines. And lets also remember that blacktop is allergic to gasoline or oil spills (as well as other fluids).

What I love about tailings/millings applied over a solid base is it represents everything blacktop IS NOT. Its weed free, it doesn't hurt the ground or environment, it doesn't rut or mark, and it doesn't need maintenance like blacktop (like sealing). An inch or so on a solid compacted firm base of gravel (not subject to water mushing) offers good traction and is forgiving to heavy rains, snow, and heavy vehicles.

Now course grain recycled blacktop is a different story. It gets directly mixed in with the blacktop making process - to offer bulk and reuse of petroleum components. Its not designed to be used by itself as I've ever seen.

Stone driveway ? wow - sounds nice. My the way, I have heard of fine millings of recycled blacktop used with pavers or larger pavers in a unique driveway surface that is superior and more stable than "sanding" in pavers or larger decorative slab pieces.
 
   / Finally got some asphalt millings..
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I have had many people ask me about doing a millings driveway for them. I was sick of the stone for snowblowing and I will not put in a driveway that I could not recommend. I wanted to try it for myself first.
 
   / Finally got some asphalt millings.. #25  
Got to give you a nod for all the effort you have done and are doing to real life research a project before doing it for hire. Wish more people would do so.
 
   / Finally got some asphalt millings.. #26  
I have had many people ask me about doing a millings driveway for them. I was sick of the stone for snowblowing and I will not put in a driveway that I could not recommend. I wanted to try it for myself first.

Screamin400,

Let's separate method from concept for a moment. I'll whole heartedly agree with your concept of doing it for yourself before selling the idea and process to others. Our entire home building effort my wife and I undertook is and has been a giant laboratory testing site from landscaping to every facet of construction method and effort. When it's your own money on the line, sometimes it feels more like gambling than it does like science lol. But it also means you sometimes have to adapt or alter a theory as you discover something missed in planning lol.
 
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As of right now I am not sure I would hire out with the millings. I think folks have a misconception about what they are. If you want an asphalt driveway you probably have to purchase an asphalt driveway. This stuff so far is harder than gravel but thats about it. It could get better in time though. I will not lay down a millings driveway without the customer coming to my house first to see my driveway. I want to make sure we are on the same page before I put down a driveway that is not as the customer imagined. I would sooner lose the job right up front than an issue after the fact. Redlands I certainly appreciate you noticing. This is the way it has to be for me. I sleep good at night.
 
   / Finally got some asphalt millings.. #28  
As of right now I am not sure I would hire out with the millings. I think folks have a misconception about what they are. If you want an asphalt driveway you probably have to purchase an asphalt driveway. This stuff so far is harder than gravel but thats about it. It could get better in time though. I will not lay down a millings driveway without the customer coming to my house first to see my driveway. I want to make sure we are on the same page before I put down a driveway that is not as the customer imagined. I would sooner lose the job right up front than an issue after the fact. Redlands I certainly appreciate you noticing. This is the way it has to be for me. I sleep good at night.

Good for you. You've got an actual example to show and test and you haven't tried to oversell and under deliver. That's a good combination for future customer satisfaction.

It's also a good way to make improvements and further test the process without any negatives.
 

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