Hurricane Irma

   / Hurricane Irma #31  
Has anyone ever driven to a hurricane area and done cleanup. If this one hits the Carolina's I may be interested in going. I have a tractor and grapple. I am wondering if it would be worth my time as I need to purchase the grapple setup.
 
   / Hurricane Irma #32  
I have friends/family who went down to bluetarp roofs after Katrina. From what I have been told:
1. Get lined up with a group that has permits/authorization to go (otherwise you may not be allowed in)
2. Bring EVERYTHING you will need (from TP to water, to food, to fuel) so that you don't become a burden or get stuck there
3. In case the previous point isn't clear enough: Be prepared for NO services, no running water, no bathrooms, no power, no stores open, nothing more than you would find camping in the middle of the desert.

Aaron Z
 
   / Hurricane Irma #33  
My parents were heading down to myrtle beach on the 14th in their motorhome. Depending on the weather they may not be going. From the looks of things that storm is going to pack quite a punch and roll right up the east coast.
 
   / Hurricane Irma #34  
I have friends/family who went down to bluetarp roofs after Katrina. From what I have been told:
1. Get lined up with a group that has permits/authorization to go (otherwise you may not be allowed in)
2. Bring EVERYTHING you will need (from TP to water, to food, to fuel) so that you don't become a burden or get stuck there
3. In case the previous point isn't clear enough: Be prepared for NO services, no running water, no bathrooms, no power, no stores open, nothing more than you would find camping in the middle of the desert.

Aaron Z
I've done this quite a few times.
Make sure you also include lots of Deets. The mosquitoes will be thick. Bring your best sunshine attitude as well since you are dealing with people in high high stress.
No matter how tempting, if you are short on food or supplies, don't go to the line where the relief materials are handed out. I've seen quite a few fellows getting caught and were not treated very kindly.
 
   / Hurricane Irma #35  
Has anyone ever driven to a hurricane area and done cleanup. If this one hits the Carolina's I may be interested in going. I have a tractor and grapple. I am wondering if it would be worth my time as I need to purchase the grapple setup.

I have helped clean up after Floyd and tornado that hit down east a few years back. It is very rewarding if you can go and help out.

In both cases, I had contacts in the area that allowed me/us to get right to work. Local churches and government, especially in a small town, generally know who needs help. The Baptists and Mennonties were out helping and well organized.

If there is complete destruction like I saw in the tornado, a tractor can help BUT there is debris all over the place, especially screws and nails than could do a job on tires. For floods, everything in the house has to come out and the walls and floors taken down to the studs and joists to dry out. Most of that work is simply mind numbing and back breaking manual labor. However, the material from the house, drywall, carpet, furniture, clothes, appliances, etc all have to get to the curb. Sometimes a tractor would have helped, but in places, the ground was so wet I wonder if the tractor would have bogged down. We did all of the moving by hand or with a wheel barrow. Not fun at all.

Our tax dollars pay to haul away the debris. The problem for the survivors is getting the debris from the house to the curb. It is quite a bit of work to move the debris to the curb even if the house is on a small lot but the tornado house we cleaned up was a couple hundred feet from the road. There was a small JD tractor helping but it really needed a tracked vehicle to deal with that debris pile. The lady in that house died. An elderly man across the road bled to death being held by his adult son. If the tornado had been maybe 100 yards one way or the other I don't think anyone would have been hurt...

The Baptists had a semi trailer setup with a kitchen and bathroom which was very clever. People slept in churches. Churches are the big organizers from I have seen. The tornado cleanup was rather small, thank goodness, but people where traveling by bus from VA to help out these people in a very rural area of east NC. The churches knew who needed help and how to get it.

There was food available from the National Guard, Red Cross, the Baptists, and other volunteers but I would make sure you had your own food and clean water. Take clothes you don't care about and the same for boots. You needs boots that can handle stepping on nails and screws. Long sleeve shirts help as well. Glove of course. If helping clean out flooded structures, N95 masks at a minimum. Mold sets in quickly, and while you might not see it in the air, it is there and it will make you cough up some wonderful multi colored goo. :(:(:( I was coughing up goo for a couple of days afterwards.

That sounds bad. It was. But you know what was worse?

The last house we helped clean up was for an elderly couple. They would have died in the flood but one of their "neighbors" had an air boat and went through the flooded area saving lives. The water just came up too fast for people to get out... Any who, the woman in the house had just finished chemo and she and her husband were going through the material remains of their life. Not much was left. They had hired a couple of guys to help when we showed up but the helpers left which saved the couple some money. EVERYTHING in that house had to come out. We just tore out some windows to remove bedroom furniture and contents. We just tossed stuff out the window to go into the dumpster the husband had dropped off. The only dumpster I ever saw cleaning up.

When we showed up her eyes let up and she gave us all hugs. We were complete strangers. We got everything out of that house but someone would have to come in and strip it to the joists and studs. It was a start. The sad thing was leaving two elderly people in that !@#$%^&*() mess, breathing that mold, and knowing that lady just finished chemo and had a suppressed immune system. They were downstream from a sewage plant that had over flowed so one can guess what was on the ground and in the house. The best I could do was leave them water and a box of N95 masks. :(:(:(

Honestly, just showing up with a pair of gloves is a HUGE help to the people in need. Just knowing someone is there to help does wonders for them mentally. They will still be in shock when you leave but you have helped them get started recovering.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Hurricane Irma
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#36  
Bad news for British Virgin Islands. Looks like a direct hit for them today.

CNN report: Irma blamed for three deaths in Caribbean - CNN

"On Tortola, the largest of the British Virgin Islands, Kennedy Banda said fierce winds blew out the windows of his home. He and his family were taking shelter in a bathroom; he said he was bracing his body against the door in an attempt to keep it shut. "Everything is blown out," he told CNN by phone near Road Town. "Everything is gone."
 
   / Hurricane Irma #37  
I did tree work and cleanup after Isabel and then Irene a couple years later. For the tree work a tractor (neighbor's, not mine) was very helpful, but for cleanup and demolition not so much. Depending on what happens here with Irma, I would take care of my own place, then neighbors, and then trailer my tractor and wood chipper over to my mother-in-law's town and help out there. They are out in the boonies, and most folks have low incomes and tough lives. It's a good place to help out. In those cases I take all of my saws and rigging equipment, plus lots of fuel, 2-stroke mix, bar oil, and tools. Even with all that, I often had to McGiver some things.

Back during Irene, it took about 5 hours to get over there, when it's normally a 1-hour drive or a 30-minute boat ride. We had to clear the roadways of trees in order to get through. About halfway there we met a national guard crew that had been clearing a highway from the opposite direction and there were a lot of high-fives.

If anyone thinks about doing this, take some time to read up on how to deal with various downed tree situations, and know the loads and stresses on the tree. It is a heck of a lot trickier than firewood cutting or even forestry work, and can be dangerous. Around here, trees often go over with the rootball attached, and you darn well better be ready to deal with that when making cuts.
 
   / Hurricane Irma #38  
Jose reaches hurricane strength in the Atlantic and Hurricane Katia forms in the Gulf of Mexico ...
 
   / Hurricane Irma #39  
I need to watch this closely. I am from SW Florida. I am currently in northern Georgia on vacation till Monday night. I may need to go home early to get the shutters on the house. My two sons are in the same town and they say they will put them up. It's a toss up. Go home to be in the storm or stay here out of harms way. I will wait till Thursday I think to make the final decision. Hope for the best.

I have a nephew in West Palm Beach. He's bugging out on Thursday. It's too late to be heading back into the hurricane. Rely on your sons.
 
   / Hurricane Irma #40  
I have a friend who is an EMT that worked the Sandy disaster. He said the toughest time they had was power for oxygen concentrators and other medical equipment. They were running off a forest of portable generators, and keeping them running was quite a challenge. Some of them needed motor oil every hour, and they ran on a variety of fuels that somebody had to go out and scrounge.
 

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